venta: (Default)
[personal profile] venta
Things I learned last night: do not, on any account, attempt to make fresh breadcrumbs in a motor-driven meat grinder.

No good will come of it.

Date: 2012-10-09 09:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feanelwa.livejournal.com
I almost want to try this now just to find out what happened...

Date: 2012-10-09 09:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
I wouldn't recommend it :)

What happened was that some breadcrumbs came out the end (woo!) and then the motor started making a sullen growling noise and clearly not actually turning round (boo!).

What had happened internally is that fresh bread is much more compressible than meat. All the bread I'd fed into the grinder had become very compressed against the screen at the end, and completely stuck the works solid. I managed to wrench the screen out of the grinder with pliers, and then spent half an hour or so with a kitchen knife slowly chipping away at the really quite surprisingly solid substance my ground bread had turned into until I could finally free everything up.

On the plus side the grinder is made of extremely solid metal and hasn't sustained any damage, as far as I can tell.

Date: 2012-10-09 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bateleur.livejournal.com
Compressible I can believe, but I'm really quite surprised the resulting compressed substance didn't subsequently get ground up and come out of the end. Bread has so many scary properties I'm beginning to wonder if it's really a good idea to eat it! (The one that always gets me is how small particles of dough or damp flour can turn into a stone-like substance if left to dry.)

Date: 2012-10-09 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
I have heard that almost all of the people in prison for murder have eaten bread in the months before committing crimes. Ban it! Ban it!

Date: 2012-10-09 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
I'm really quite surprised the resulting compressed substance didn't subsequently get ground up and come out of the end

Me too!

The mincer comes with three different screens, with tiny holes, middley holes and large holes. I used the middle one, which may have been a poor choice - but I'm a bit reluctant to experiment with the large one, now!

Date: 2012-10-09 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sea-of-flame.livejournal.com
Does your list of scary properties include the ability to effectively strain the red dye out of WWII military-issue petrol to turn it into colourless black market fuel?

If not, add another item to the list - even the historians on the Wartime Farm (or whatever it was called) TV programme (same folks as Victorian Farm etc) couldn't believe their eyes when they tried it...

Date: 2012-10-09 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Alledgedly, one could also strain WWII-era Brasso through bread to extract drinkable[*] alcohol as well. I have never tried this :)

[*] Though, presumably, not palatable.

Date: 2012-10-09 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bateleur.livejournal.com
Wow! I wonder if that works on modern red diesel too?

Date: 2012-10-09 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Someone on the internet thinks it does (http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080220113150AAuB4u9) (but considerably more people in that thread think it does not ;)

Date: 2012-10-09 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feanelwa.livejournal.com
Aha. I remember my mum using the beef mincer to make breadcrumbs but she always used very stale bread. Now I know why!

Date: 2012-10-09 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Yes, I was speculating that dry/stale bread might be ok. Although that works ok with a grater, too, which is less faff to clean than the mincer!

Date: 2012-10-09 09:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sammason.livejournal.com
Snork!

That's assuming that your breadcrumbs didn't turn out red and that you still have fingers. In which case, no snork. Meat-grinders have a vocation.

Date: 2012-10-09 10:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
No, see above - no injuries, just a tedious half hour undoing the damage. So feel free to snork :)

Meat-grinders have a vocation.

Mine is clearly trying to escape its own stereotype, as it is enthusiastically claiming it will mince up nuts too. I haven't tried it out yet.

I'm rather hoping it'll mash up beans for me as well (I don't own a food processor), but sooner or later I think I'll have to pacify it with some chicken.

Date: 2012-10-09 10:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sammason.livejournal.com
I'm snorking! But really, food processors are cheap.

Date: 2012-10-09 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
I know they're cheap. But flats in London are expensive! And thus mine is not large enough to contain all the kitchen things I already have and a food processor :)

I have toyed with the idea of getting a mini one, but wasn't sure if it'd be big enough to be useful. I'm currently working out how many of the food process-y things I want to do I can realistically do with devices I already own.

(In the instance of the beans you can mash them with a fork. If you have a lot of spare time and wrists of steel. Which I don't.)

Date: 2012-10-09 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sammason.livejournal.com
I'm glad you're thinking ahead about this. Allegedly most kitchens in Britain are clogged with unused gadgets. You can't even get rid of the electrical ones to charity shops.

Come to think of it, now that {gulp} my cooking days are mostly over, if you'd like to inherit a food processor, I have one that works just fine that I'm no longer likely to use. I'll post it to you if you like or you can collect it in person.

PS not for the kitchen you have now, from what you say. But maybe in future.
Edited Date: 2012-10-09 02:05 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-10-09 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Oh thank you, that's a very kind offer! If I decide I really do have a need for one (and space for one) I'll get back to you. Much better to rehome an unused one that buy a new one. Though obviously I'd be even more pleased to hear that you'd found you were able to use it again yourself!

I am a dreadful sucker for kitchen gadgets, actually. I have to give myself a good talking-to every so often when some single-use item pops up and flaunts itself and sounds so indispensable. I fix it with a Paddington-like stare and it usually concedes that, actually, I seem to be doing just fine without it :)

Date: 2012-10-10 07:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com
For fresh breadcrumbs, you need something like a liquidizer -- basically a chopping blade with plenty of air space around it, to avoid the compaction effect.

Date: 2012-10-10 09:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Indeed - I used to have a blender unit which had its own mini-grinder that fitted on in place of the jug and that was great for breadcrumbs.

My current blender appears to have too much airspace and just bounces bread crusts about. Which is pretty and frolicsome, but ultimately not that useful.

Date: 2012-10-10 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com
Would it work if you ground twice as much bread as required, so as to fill up the airspace a bit better, and put the leftover in the freezer for future use?

(Unless your freezer's too small to store such things, which I guess it might be given the above comment…)

Date: 2012-10-10 10:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Sadly no, it wouldn't.

I've tried things like that, and what happens is I end up with a blender full of stationary bread while the bit immediately round the blades becomes crumbs. The blades then rotate pointlessly in the space they've created.

Obviously I can squash the contents down and repeat, pausing every so often to excavate the crumbs, but to be honest, it's pretty much more faff than doing it any other way.

Date: 2012-10-09 10:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celestialweasel.livejournal.com
Does your grinder have an anti-motor-exploding-clutch-that-strips-instead mechanism? Our blender has one, clutch has only stripped twice so far.

Date: 2012-10-09 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Um, I don't actually know. The grinder is an attachment thingy that fits on a Kenwood. I've been blending enthusiastically with the Kenwood for around three years (also mixing, whisking, etc) and there has thus far been neither explosion nor stripping, as far as I can tell.

Date: 2012-10-09 10:07 am (UTC)
ext_8103: (penguin)
From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
You can't just leave it at that!

Date: 2012-10-09 10:08 am (UTC)
ext_8103: (penguin)
From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
Oh, and you haven't. NM l-)

Date: 2012-10-09 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lanfykins.livejournal.com
No good will come of it.

And will your last words begin 'Come all ye'?

(Smug points available for the reference)

Date: 2012-10-09 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
No Doleful Ghosts have thus far got involved. As far as I'm aware. I will check with my mother.

Date: 2012-10-09 11:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lanfykins.livejournal.com
Enjoy your smug points :)

(And keep away from navigable waterways)

Date: 2012-10-09 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exspelunca.livejournal.com
And what would I know?

Date: 2012-10-10 09:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Whether I have run away, disguised as a man, to join the army. Or whether I have been murdered by a gentleman who wished to marry another. Or whether I should refrain from going out hunting today.

([livejournal.com profile] lanfykins and I are both referring to this (http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/006448.html), which is very entertaining and well worth a read.)

Date: 2012-10-10 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exspelunca.livejournal.com
Brilliant! And to think all those songs we learned in junior school weren't really about expert violinists and songbirds.

Date: 2012-10-11 01:03 pm (UTC)

Profile

venta: (Default)
venta

December 2025

S M T W T F S
 123456
78910111213
14151617181920
212223 24252627
28293031   

Most Popular Tags

Style Credit

Expand Cut Tags

No cut tags
Page generated Dec. 26th, 2025 11:27 pm
Powered by Dreamwidth Studios