Haven't you? Gosh. That's probably why you were asking why you'd need both -ness and -ity then isn't it? ;-)
Try thinking of other words that come in both the "ness" and the "ity" forms then? Simpleness/Simplicity? Austerity/Austereness? Gullibility/Gullibleness?
It's always verbally referred to as endianness wherever I've worked, and a quick google shows that the double-n spelling is 4 times more prevalent than the single-n.
Unless you're not talking about byte order. The concept also applies to dates, in which case 2004-01-09 is big endian, 9 January 2004 is little endian, and January 9, 2004 is middle endian. And eggs.
Hmm. But if I observe that the US writes dates middle endian then no-one will know what I mean.
If, however, I point out that December 8 (as opposed to 8 December) is Just Wrong, I'm probably onto a better thing. December 8 means the 8th (instance of) December, like in Henry VII or Omen III, not the 8th (day of) December.
And if I see "best before January 04" on a US-bought lunch, would that mean it's 5 days out of date or I've got until the end of the month to eat it?
And all you BBC newsreaders: it's 11/9, not 9/11!!
Ah, Iwas confused. 'Endian', I thought, already is a noun; it's wither a little endian, or abig endian, and it's someone who believes that the egg should be big or little way up, as appropriate. I'm not very awake.
The comments in this thread about words people would like to see reminds me about the tale of a Belgian official, whose name I do not remember, describing some great Euro cock-up as a "misunderstandment".
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Date: 2004-01-09 01:54 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-01-09 02:03 am (UTC)Really must clear the crap off my home machine!
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Date: 2004-01-09 02:57 am (UTC)And one notional kudo to
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Date: 2004-01-09 05:56 am (UTC)I'd be interested to know if the OED has any citations between Swift and that paper other than direct discussions of Gulliver's Travels.
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Date: 2004-01-09 07:10 am (UTC)(Is that sadder or not?)
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Date: 2004-01-09 01:56 am (UTC)Could you elaborate on that ? What would be the difference between endianity and endianness ?
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Date: 2004-01-09 02:53 am (UTC)purity
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and note how you would typically use them in slightly different ways.
(OK, OK, I'm making it up ;-)
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Date: 2004-01-09 03:07 am (UTC)I don't believe I've ever used the word pureness.
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Date: 2004-01-09 03:42 am (UTC)Try thinking of other words that come in both the "ness" and the "ity" forms then? Simpleness/Simplicity? Austerity/Austereness? Gullibility/Gullibleness?
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Date: 2004-01-09 02:09 am (UTC)Is this coming from "big endian" and "little endian"?
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Date: 2004-01-09 02:11 am (UTC)Indeed.
So if I want to write something like "we can determine the endianness of x", using "end" just won't do.
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Date: 2004-01-09 02:31 am (UTC)--
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Date: 2004-01-09 02:39 am (UTC)there's no reason in the world
Unless you're not talking about byte order. The concept also applies to dates, in which case 2004-01-09 is big endian, 9 January 2004 is little endian, and January 9, 2004 is middle endian. And eggs.
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Date: 2004-01-09 02:40 am (UTC)And it was all going so well.
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Date: 2004-01-09 03:00 am (UTC)If, however, I point out that December 8 (as opposed to 8 December) is Just Wrong, I'm probably onto a better thing. December 8 means the 8th (instance of) December, like in Henry VII or Omen III, not the 8th (day of) December.
And if I see "best before January 04" on a US-bought lunch, would that mean it's 5 days out of date or I've got until the end of the month to eat it?
And all you BBC newsreaders: it's 11/9, not 9/11!!
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Date: 2004-01-09 02:59 am (UTC)(How many points must that be worth for I-Spy LJ?)
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Date: 2004-01-09 03:09 am (UTC)25
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Date: 2004-01-09 03:48 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-01-09 08:03 am (UTC)(And how about Pompousness/pomposity - those are *real* words - do you use both?)
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Date: 2004-01-09 09:17 am (UTC)I think it would be bad style to use both in the same document or set of documents, since they have the same meaning.
You could use both "pompousness" and "pomp", of course, since due to a quirk of etymology they don't mean the same thing.
I also not that rather splendidly, there's no shorter precise equivalent of "pompousnesslessness".
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