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A while back I noticed posters advertising a "protein shake" called, I think, Upbeat and made a note to try it. I figured it was a potentially interesting snack-concept for days when I want to go straight from work to, say, a yoga class without keeling over. (Lots of other interesting snack-concepts are also available but hey, I quite like milkshake).

This morning, outside Ealing Broadway station, there were gentlemen in leather jackets handing out free samples of a chocolate "40% higher protein" milkshake called Wing-Co. Obviously protein shakes are the new Thing. Wing-Co has a blocky cartoon of a WWII-era pilot (his moustache dripping chocolate milk) on the bottle, and small planes whizzing past the nutritional information.

It's pretty nice, actually. Chocolate milkshake is very variable and often has a nasty, grainy texture but I enjoyed this one. Whether it can actually make good on its promise to "shoot down hunger, fast" remains to be seen. But I could imagine buying it again.

Except...

As the free-samplers were dishing out the bottles this morning, they said "Man up with Wing-Co!" to everyone they handed one to. According to the info box on the label, "WING-CO IS PROPER MAN FUEL". "DON'T BE A GIRL," it further elaborates, "SHAKE IT UP AND DRINK IT NOW!"

Oh. Good.

The info box is, of course, designed to look like a plate which has been screwed onto the bottle. Because, y'know, screws are very manly (they look like slotted-head countersunk woodscrews to me).

Think I'll try out Upbeat after all. In fact, Wing-Co has inspired me to compare the two, and Upbeat has real fruit in it, and more protein, and is made entirely from British milk.

Date: 2013-06-06 10:45 am (UTC)
ext_550458: (Jessica rebel)
From: [identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com
Ugh, I really hate companies who do this. Yorkie and some brand of beer whose name I can't remember (and which is irrelevant to me since I don't drink beer anyway) are similar offenders. The beer brand might be John Smith's, actually.

An affronted letter explaining exactly why you won't be buying their product in future, in spite of actually liking the taste, might add at least one small drop to the ocean that will eventually (I dearly hope) sweep this bullshit away. I'd certainly be interested to see their reply.

Actually, a quick look on Twitter for references to 'Wing-Co' shows that quite a few people are vocally complaining about their sexism there already. The manufacturers, Arla Foods, have an account there, so should see any tweets which mention it. Is it OK with you if I link to this post on Twitter and copy them in?

Date: 2013-06-06 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Linking to this post is fine, and you're welcome (though I don't associate my LJ with my own twitter handle).

I couldn't think, myself, of a way of complaining that I felt would make the point. I don't find it offensive, I just find it a bit... well, a bit shit, really. And a bit disappointing. If they're going to go for such a low-rent ad campaign, then I suspect their response would be along the lines of "haha typical girl can't even take a joke".

Date: 2013-06-06 11:00 am (UTC)
lnr: Halloween 2023 (Default)
From: [personal profile] lnr
That's more or less what McCoys said when I tried complaining to them. Plus ’You're not our target market'. Shame, because I really like their crisps, but won't buy them with their current attitude.

Date: 2013-06-06 03:56 pm (UTC)
ext_8103: (penguin)
From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
I just stopped buying them. Did they say who their target market were? (And have they told their downstream vendors how small it is?)

Date: 2013-06-07 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigerfort.livejournal.com
This is the disadvantage of not seeing any adverts; I miss this sort of thing. Oh well, there are other thick-and-crunchy crisps around these days, so I'll just buy those instead until McCoys sort themselves out.

Date: 2013-06-06 11:09 am (UTC)
ext_550458: (Willow pump)
From: [identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com
Yeah, I suspect the same, but if they get enough bad publicity for it they might start rethinking.

Date: 2013-06-06 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] octalbunny.livejournal.com
But that could mean that the marketing has worked for them, long-term. People get the brand name in their head, want it, and once the boycott stops they start buying it.

I can't think what the academic "perfect game" strategy would be.

Date: 2013-06-06 02:43 pm (UTC)
ext_550458: (Lady Penelope)
From: [identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com
I think you're right that companies which take a stand against sexism probably benefit from a boost in their public profile, even if they were the very ones perpetuating the sexism which they are now standing against in the first place. I think the only strategy we can take as consumers if we want to combat sexism is to buy from companies which reflect our values and not from those which don't (and to say so loudly in both cases on the internet).

Over time, and especially at present when there really do seem to be more and more voices uniting against sexism, I would hope that the economic penalties associated with sexist marketing would become strong enough to mean that companies did not want to incur them just for the sake of the benefits which they could then reap by turning into one of the 'good guys' - i.e. it would be more beneficial just to be one of the good guys in the first place.

But that's an optimistic view, which will only works if there is genuinely an overall economic penalty associated with this kind of marketing. At the moment, the makers of Wing-Co clearly think exactly the opposite.

Date: 2013-06-06 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bateleur.livejournal.com
At the moment, the makers of Wing-Co clearly think exactly the opposite.

Either that or they just don't think in a way that makes this kind of marketing seem problematic.

We live in our comfortable little filter bubbles online, forgetting what the world is like. If "everyone" agrees on something here, that might only be 10% or even 1% of people out in the real world.

Date: 2013-06-06 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ptc24.livejournal.com
Yorkie: I remember my reaction to that being "damn you Nestle, I'm already boycotting you, I can't double-boycott you, argh!"

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