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There will be some proper content shortly. Maybe.

However... in the interim...

I don't mind people making up words. I do it all the time, after all. But there are some neologisms which just make my skin crawl.

I was reminded of this at lunchtime when a colleague included the word "chillaxin'" in a sentence[*]; it's possibly my least-favourite word from the last few years.

Any advance on chillaxing in the horribleness stakes? Has to be a word with at least some level of usage, not something one of your mates said once.

[*] Admittedly, I suspect he did this chiefly because he thought it would make my skin crawl.

Date: 2013-06-03 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crankst-girl.livejournal.com
Boho. Nuff said.

Date: 2013-06-03 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
I don't like the word boho much either, but the OED's earliest citation is 1958... so I suspect we're definitely stuck with that one!

Date: 2013-06-03 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bateleur.livejournal.com
If we're allowed hashtags, I nominate #yolo.

Date: 2013-06-03 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
I'm so out of touch with the kids I don't even know what that means. And I admit I'm scared to google it.

Date: 2013-06-03 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bateleur.livejournal.com
It's an acronym: "You Only Live Once".

It's the ketchup of online discourse, though. Applied to everything indiscriminately, usually as a complete non-sequitur.

Date: 2013-06-03 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Ah, I assumed it was going to be an abbrevi-manteau (eg for "YOu LOut").

I am delighted that my online discourse is restricted to people who do not use it ;)
Edited Date: 2013-06-03 01:59 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-06-03 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoiho.livejournal.com
'YOLO is "carpe diem" for morons', said my wise-for-her-years 17 year old daughter.

Date: 2013-06-03 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bateleur.livejournal.com
Looking things up on urban dictionary is apparently good enough for court cases after all. ;-)

Date: 2013-06-03 04:55 pm (UTC)
ext_8103: (penguin)
From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
Quidquid latine dictum sit...

Date: 2013-06-03 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bopeepsheep.livejournal.com
It makes watching Springwatch a little weirder though - Iolo Williams is now Yolo in my head. Sans hashtag, thankfully.

Date: 2013-06-03 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bateleur.livejournal.com
Sans hashtag, thankfully.

Although if you ever want to annoy him on Twitter... ;-)

Date: 2013-06-03 06:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shermarama
That had been tweaking at me, too. I'd been intending to but hadn't looked up how his name was actually spelt, so thanks for that!

Date: 2013-06-03 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phlebas.livejournal.com
Mystery solved!
Edited Date: 2013-06-03 02:20 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-06-03 01:54 pm (UTC)
ext_8103: (penguin)
From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
How does shamazing grab you?

Date: 2013-06-03 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
I think the Prime Minister should know better but I don't find that one particularly gut-grinding, actually.

Date: 2013-06-03 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pseudomonas.livejournal.com
I find "feels" (as a noun; approximately equivalent to "feelings") makes my skin crawl rather.

Date: 2013-06-03 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Eww! I haven't even heard that one.

Date: 2013-06-03 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ceb.livejournal.com
See also "pantsfeels", meaning, approximately, lust (which is 15 gajillion letters shorter, come on people).

Date: 2013-06-05 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pseudomonas.livejournal.com
I think I see it as rather affected. I don't generally mind neologisms.

http://mightygodking.com/2013/06/04/this-act-of-creative-and-historical-vandalism-is-not-technically-my-fault/

Aside, I wonder how to get going a "verbing nouns requires voicing the final consonant" meme. That ship probably sailed centuries ago though...
Edited Date: 2013-06-05 11:51 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-06-03 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feanelwa.livejournal.com
I use chillax to take the piss out of people who are trying to be all hipstery. I was in IKEA with unreliable car-fixing ex when we were still going out and this woman behind us in the queue at the cafe said to her kids "you two, just chillax, will you?" - we immediately turned to each other and mouthed "chillax!" and the kids saw and laughed. Sorry mum.

My most recent hated word is "storying" as used on university mailing lists to advertise events. "Storying the student experience". What's wrong with "writing the student experience as a story" or possibly "not sending me emails about your weird social sciences things as if I have time when I blatantly don't"?
Edited Date: 2013-06-03 02:08 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-06-03 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Ugh. I haven't heard storying to date, but it is quite ugly.

Date: 2013-06-03 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sammason.livejournal.com
Words or phrases?

Date: 2013-06-03 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
I was aiming for words, on this occasion - by the time you've added in weird marketing speak and anything said by a politician the capacity for unpleasant phrases is immense.

Date: 2013-06-03 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sammason.livejournal.com
In that case, I offer you 'environment' and 'respect'. Also 'family' and 'mum'.

Prove that you respect the environment by doing what any mum would do for her family. {cringe}

Date: 2013-06-03 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ceb.livejournal.com
But what does it *mean* that 'chilling' or 'relaxing' doesn't? Eh? Also it sounds like a brand of coldsore cream.

Date: 2013-06-03 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ceb.livejournal.com
"totes" and "amazo" and variant "amazeballs". Though I am about immune to these now as one of my coworkers uses them regularly.

Date: 2013-06-03 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ceb.livejournal.com
Oh and *spit* "frenemy".

Date: 2013-06-03 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Oh, y'know, I can almost like frenemy. Not that I've ever heard a real person actually say it.

Date: 2013-06-03 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sammason.livejournal.com
'Immune!' says this parasitologist.

Date: 2013-06-04 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feanelwa.livejournal.com
Correctly pronounced as "taytes amayzebells" in my head.

Date: 2013-06-03 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kauket.livejournal.com
My Gentleman Friend Simon has created TMZ, which is short for 'totes amaze' short for 'totally amazing.'

It's amazing I let him speak sometimes ;) We never needed totes amaze, let alone TMZ.

Date: 2013-06-03 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
On the other hand, if he really must TMZ is probably preferable.

Date: 2013-06-03 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com
I found 'jeggings' quite disturbing (as a word and as an item of clothing). But I guess that's old hat these days. How about 'cankle'?

Date: 2013-06-03 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Cankle?

I think jeggings is new enough to count, if you wish to submit it.

Date: 2013-06-04 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
I dunno... if you need a word to express that concept (which, thus far in my thiry-something years of existence I never have) it doesn't seem like a dreadful one.

Date: 2013-06-04 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com
Mm, it was more the needing a word for it than the word itself.

Date: 2013-06-04 07:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mr-tom.livejournal.com
Do you mean specifically portmanteaux, or any horrible word? I'm particularly irked by any verbing. It's shockingly common in The Enterprise. "Can we workshop that?", "Will you action this?" et al.

And when the management types abuse terms that are already being abused by programmers. "Let's refactor the schedule!", "Can we have a QA step in the workflow?".

Augh!

Date: 2013-06-04 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com
Disliking verbing always strikes me as oddly quaint. Do you avoid common verbs like talk, sleep, drink, and stop, all of which are verbed nouns and were once neologisms like 'to workshop' is today? Or, if those are too time-hallowed for comparison: in recent years there's access, email, contact, etc?

Date: 2013-06-04 08:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mr-tom.livejournal.com
It feels like the line in the sand is around being either ugly or unnecessary. "To email" feels like a reasonable neologism as the verb form popped-up contemporaneously with the noun. Similarly, your examples seem reasonable as they are both terse and not ugly. (Although do you have any links to the relevant etymological roots? http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=stop suggests that "stop" is an verbal noun rather than vice versa)

Then you get things like "medalling" in the Olympics. Which is horrible, thanks to its homophone also being in-context.

Date: 2013-06-04 08:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com
The modern noun 'stop' comes from the verb, but the verb itself comes from an earlier noun (at least, that's my understanding. But I am not an etymological expert.)

Mm, I also dislike 'to medal' for its ugliness: but I don't have that problem with your examples 'workshop' and 'action', both of which I use as cheerfully as I do 'contact'. I think having personal taste objections to particular examples is fair enough, but to decry a whole category of word formation seems a bit extreme.

Date: 2013-06-04 08:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
I wasn't specifically after portmanteaux[*] but I did want new words which are inherently horrible. There's nothing wrong with "refactor" as a word, though I concede that it can be used in various horrible ways. What is it with management types wanting to steal technical words?


[*] Due to typing failure, I nearly wrote "portmanteauz". Which is probably what they call them on da interwebs these days.

Date: 2013-06-04 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com
Calling the singer Rihanna 'Ri-Ri'. It sounds like a lisping two-year-old asking for the potty.

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