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Over on someone else's LJ, I've just been reading a comment about someone's school hymn. Which has just reminded me to muse what a bloody odd choice my school made.

At the end of every term, and on various high days and holidays, we would churn out O Brother Man, which always struck me as a singularly odd choice for a girls school.

Worse, we didn't sing it to any kind of regular hymn tune; oh no. The middle verse went to a different tune from the first and third, both were full of weird runs and unsingable intervals, and the whole was rounded off with a vaguely apocalyptic piano accompaniment.

(Yikes. A brief quest on youtube to see if I could find a recording of it revealed this, which is bloody odd. Wrong tune, of course, but it's basically hymn-karaoke. Ah well, each to their own.)

A quick test has just revealed that I do actually still know all the words (and I bet [livejournal.com profile] marjory does too). I have a vague idea it was dinned into us so we could sing it at school functions without the tiresome intervention of hymnbooks. My rendering of the tune was very poor, mind. Did I mention? Really quite a difficult tune.

(Anyone hugely curious can find the words here: http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/o/b/obrother.htm. We missed out the second verse they give altogether. That site will play (the wrong) audio at you, be warned. In fact, I mainly include the link so people can marvel at what a fabulous URL cyberhymnal.org is. Cyberhymnal! Isn't that a brilliant word?)

On the plus side, the sheer unwieldiness of the school tune means that no one else uses it. I'm extremely unlikely to bump into it anywhere else, and thus I avoid the pitfalls of being mentally displaced back to bottle-green-clad adolescence without warning.

The junior school (which I didn't attend) attached to my secondary school lucked out and got the jolly Lord of All Hopefulness instead. My junior school didn't go in for such exotica as a school hymn, as far as I can remember. In fact, I've no idea how common the concept of a school hymn is. Did you have one? Can you remember it?

Date: 2010-10-06 09:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lanfykins.livejournal.com
We had kind of two. One had been written by a nun specifically for the school, and thus the chances of my running into anyone else who's even heard of 'Lady of Kilgraston' are kinda low.

The other was God Be With You Till We Meet Again, which was sung at the end of prize giving on the last day of the summer term. And on no other occasion, ever.

In the days running up to prize giving, we had to learn the words to both to ensure that we didn't need hymn sheets.

Date: 2010-10-06 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celestialweasel.livejournal.com
One of my friends taught at a school that had a school song to the tune of 'Something about a soldier' (changed to 'something about the [name of school]'). Deeply bizarre.

My school had a song (long abandoned, along with the houses when I went there though I understand houses have come back, but different ones) which contained the line
'Buckinghamshire's four mighty men - Challoner, Hampden, Milton and Penn'.
(which were the four houses), which sounds to me like a rather camp line from a musical set in the 20s.

Sadly I can't find the words on the web, though I believe this to be true, even though it is in Wikipedia.

Date: 2010-10-06 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huskyteer.livejournal.com
At prep skool it was He Who Would Valiant Be, which I've always loved. Boarding-school I don't think had a hymn - I can't remember - but, being located on the coast, we always used to sing For Those In Peril On The Sea during stormy weather.

Date: 2010-10-06 09:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicarage.livejournal.com
Pueri Alleynienses, quotquot annos quotquot menses
Fertur principum memoria,
Vivit Fundatoris nomen, unicae virtutis omen
Detur soli Deo Gloria
Herne Hill, Brixton and Victoria

Boys of Alleyn, may our forefathers' memory
Endure through as many years and as many months as there may be,
The Founder's name lives on, a promise of unparalleled virtue to come,
Glory be given to God alone. 
(the stations into London from the nearest station to the school)

Date: 2010-10-06 10:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pm215
The comprehensive I went to definitely didn't have a school hymn, or indeed any singing of hymns at all. My primary school, being CofE, did have singing of hymns at assembly, but no school hymn.

(I just went and looked at the primary's homepage, and all the classes seem to be named after birds these days; I'm sure it was just numbers when I was there...)

Date: 2010-10-06 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
We had a school hymn, which I can still sing & will reproduce in its entirety here without looking it up (honest!):

"Our Father, by whose servant this house was built of old,
Whose hand hath crowned her children with blessings manifold,
For thine unfailing mercy, far strewn along our way,
With all who passed before us we praise thy name today.

Four hundred years enduring[*] from age to following age,
A hundred generations have built our heritage.
Their names are long forgotten, long spent their hopes and fears,
Safe rest they in thy keeping, who changest not with years.

They reap not where they laboured, we reap what they have sown,
Our harvest may be garnered by ages yet unknown.
The days of old have dowered us with gifts beyond all praise;
Our Father, make us faithful to serve the coming days.

Before us and beside us, still holden in thine hand
A cloud unseen of witness our elder comrades stand.
One family unbroken we join with one acclaim,
One heart, one voice uplifted to glorify thy name."

It was a Victorian-ish hymn tune (maybe a bit unpredictable in places but fine once you got the hang of it), & the same for each verse, but with a nice descant on the last verse (the choir sang the descant at prizegivings and stuff). I was (and am) quite fond of our school hymn, & I confess I got very weepy when singing it at my last ever assembly. Thinking of it now I can almost feel those itchy grey school socks. :-D

Your description of your complicated school hymn with the difficult tune reminds me of the very rare occasions at school when we would sing ST PATRICK'S BREASTPLATE ("I bind unto myself today / the power of the Trinity..."), which is probably the most awesome hymn I know, but it is a bit of a complicated tune & then there's a bit in the middle where it goes into a different key and time-signature and nobody ever knows how it goes. Someone I knew had it at their wedding, & that was a disaster. :-}

Sorry for rambling on, but, hymns! I could talk forever about hymns. They are great.

[*] when our brother-school had its quincentenary they changed this line to "five hundred years enduring"[**], but it was "four hundred years" for my first 5 years or so at the school, so that's what I know best.

[**] the girls' school was nowhere near as old, but both high schools and the junior school that fed into them all had the same school hymn.

Date: 2010-10-06 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com
I don't think we had a particular 'school hymn'. I do remember my primary school being rather fond of the more modern, happy-clappy sort, like singing The Lords Prayer to a calypso beat. Some teachers seemed to rather like a slightly petrochemical-obsessed one that exhorted us to be thankful for oily puddles and aeroplanes refuelling (as well as rather more bucolic things like horse chestnuts).

Date: 2010-10-06 10:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrlloyd.livejournal.com
Your schools had hymns? If mine did I didn't notice.

Date: 2010-10-06 10:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secondhand-rick.livejournal.com
We had a custom school song, based on the town's (and consequently the school's) motto "Forward"1.

I can't remember much other than the opening lines:

Let our voices make the rafters ring,
As the motto of our school we sing,
Forward, forward, forward,
To something something something something...


I don't fear much chance of running into too many others who know it.


--
[1] The motto comes from James Douglas who realising he was about to be killed by Moors while on a Crusade, and carrying the embalmed heart of Robert the Bruce about his neck, flung it ahead of him into the midst of the Moors, crying: "Forward, brave heart, as ever thou were wont to do, and Douglas will follow thee or die". Which he then did.

Date: 2010-10-06 12:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bopeepsheep.livejournal.com
Lots of hymn singing at primary school, but no school hymn; no hymns at all at secondary school apart from Christmas (and even then we wrote our own too).

Our primary school music teacher was a wonderful - if slightly dotty - elderly Chinese lady (with some fascinating stories - she knew Gladys Aylward well!) and this added a slightly surreal tone to the hymns I learned then. In my head most titles are said in Mrs A's voice: Aw Thees Brat A Byootafoo, etc.

My mum's school had a school hymn which is one of those specific to the school, but also her music teacher made up tunes for most well-known hymns, with the result that I learned them from her and then got very confused when encountering them in church later on. And I also know 'the wrong' tune for a number of hymns I learned in church because our Rector wrote and adapted some too. Altogether, it's been a life of confusion and not-quite-sure-about-this-bit-ness when it comes to singing hymns.

Date: 2010-10-06 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bopeepsheep.livejournal.com
Oh, this is a good place to note it in case I am not alone in this one:

for some reason whenever I sing 'Come Ye Thankful People Come' it turns into 'For Those In Peril On The Sea'. I cannot explain it, and it puzzles me. The same thing happens with 'When Lamps Are Lighted In The Town', which is at least about fishermen, so vaguely related, unlike the harvest one.

Date: 2010-10-06 02:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] killalla
No hymn as such, but we had a school song - Oahu Wa, and we'd often sing Hawaii Aloha or the state anthem at events. Hawaii Aloha is kind of hymn-ish:

E Hawaiʻi e kuʻu one hānau e
Kuʻu home kulaīwi nei
ʻOli nō au i nā pono lani ou
E Hawaiʻi, aloha ē

Hui:
E hauʻoli e nā ʻōpio o Hawaiʻi nei
ʻOli ē! ʻOli ē!
Mai nā aheahe makani e pā mai nei
Mau ke aloha, no Hawaiʻi

E haʻi mai kou mau kini lani e
Kou mau kupa aloha, e Hawaiʻi
Nā mea ʻōlino kamahaʻo no luna mai
E Hawaiʻi aloha ē

(Hui)

Nā ke Akua e mālama mai iā ʻoe
Kou mau kualona aloha nei
Kou mau kahawai ʻōlinolino mau
Kou mau māla pua nani ē

(Hui)

O Hawaiʻi, O sands of my birth
My native home
I rejoice in the blessings of heaven
O Hawaiʻi, aloha.

Chorus:
Happy youth of Hawaiʻi
Rejoice! Rejoice!
Gentle breezes blow
Love always for Hawaiʻi.

May your divine throngs speak
Your loving people, O Hawaiʻi
The holy light from above
O Hawaiʻi, aloha.

(Chorus)

God protects you
Your beloved ridges
Your ever glistening streams
Your beautiful flower gardens.

(Chorus)

Date: 2010-10-06 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] floralaetifica.livejournal.com
I don't think I've ever had a friend do a church wedding. Nope - can't think of a single one. The only places I can recall singing hymns were funerals. (I'm not counting carols - I do occasionally go to carol services just to have a chance to sing.)

Date: 2010-10-06 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exspelunca.livejournal.com
My junior school chose Glorious Things of Thee are Spoken. Odd because the school was built and opened not long after the end of WW2 and the hymn shared its tune with Deutschland Uber Alles. Some ex-service parents may have been upset. My girls grammar sang Our Father by Whose Servants at the end of every term but instead of "0ur harvest may be garnered" my year sang "our salad may be garnished with parsley yet ungrown" ... but then, we were notorious as the first Upper VI where NOBODY cried at the final assembly. I agree, your secondary school hymn was bloody awful. Your Dad says his grammar had a hymn, but he can't remember what it was.

Follow the Gleam

Date: 2010-10-06 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kissifa.livejournal.com
(Ours started off quite chirpy, but with a weird lyric about noses)

#Over the valley, in early summer
Over the moutain on human faces
And all around me, moving to melody
Floated the Gleam.

Down from the mountain and over the level,
And streaming, and shining, on silent river,
Silvery willows, pastures and ploughlands,
Slided the Gleam.

(Then a change of tune, tempo and pace)

And bolder, and brighter, the Gleam flying onward,
Wed to the melody, sang through the world.

(I forget a verse! Shame! We had to practice the next bit until we had perfected a mighty crescendo.)

Not of the sunlight, not of the moonlight, not of the starlight.

(Back to the first tune, but more insanity in the lyrics)

O young mariner, down to the haven.
Call your companions and launch your vessel,
And fold your canvas, and ere it vanishes,
Over the margin,
After it, follow it.

(Final change of tune, we all know the end is coming, and we are glad.)

Follow the Gleam.
Follow the Gleam.
Follow the Gleam.#

We were never told what the 'Gleam' was. All we knew was we hated it because it meant we had to practice singing about the bloody thing in the sweaty fly infested marquee in the middle of a field at the height of summer, over and over again until Mrs German the insane music teacher was satisfied with our performance. The Gleam can go f*ck itself.

Date: 2010-10-06 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] satyrica.livejournal.com
Ours was O God Our Help In Ages Past on the basis that it was written by a former pupil, Isaac Watts- this making him a Famous Son of Southampton, the clock on the civic centre drones out a tinny version of the tune every 4, 8 and 12 o'clock, immediately dragging me back to the memory of lacklustre assemblies if I ever happen to be wandering around Southampton city centre at such an hour.

O Brother... Man!

Date: 2010-10-06 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marjory.livejournal.com
Yes, that song has been branded into my brain, ridiculously contrived tune and all. It isn't so much apocalyptic IMHO as sounding like the piano score for a particularly swoony silent melodrama.

No, I have no idea why they chose that one. Possibly to teach us not to ask, er, germane questions like that.

Date: 2010-10-06 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladylizbet.livejournal.com
Oh Brother Meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!! lol... Sarah & I were talking about that just the other day!

hehehe

xxx

Date: 2010-10-06 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shui-long.livejournal.com
I actually couldn't remember anything about my old school song, beyond a vague recollection of something pasted into the front of the hymnbooks used for school assembly. So I had to look it up, and apparently:

Nunc universo gaudio,
Ludo pensisque functi,
Scholam dilectam sedulo
Concelebremus cuncti.
Iam quadringentos amplius
Annos laudem meretur,
Merendo et durabimus,
Dum nostra urbs servetur.

Sit clarior, sit dignior,
quotquot labuntur menses:
Sit primus nobis hic decor,
Sumus Bristolienses.


The last line is a rather obvious clue to the school...
When founded in 1532, pupils were taught Latin, Greek, Divinity and a little Hebrew; slightly more recently, I was taught Latin and Divinity, though possibly not from the same textbooks.

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