Following on from my earlier claim that you can get by in a foreign country by smiling, being enthusiastic and saying "thank you" a lot, I wondered about the possibility of compiling a bare minimum phrase book for use by people who know nothing of the language they're going to be floundering in.
My BMPB should be small enough to fit onto a piece of paper considerably smaller than most phrasebooks. It assumes general goodwill on the part of the people to whom one is speaking, and isn't intended to cover any specific circumstance.
Yes
No
Please
Thank you
Thank you very much
Hello
Goodbye
See you later
Great [*]
It doesn't matter
1-10, 100
Can you write it down, please? [mostly for numbers not covered above, or placenames]
What do you call this?
I would like... [**]
I need... [**]
I have lost... [**]
I would like to go to (here) [points to map, or points to written-down placename]
... something
... that one/this one.
... one like this.
Where are the toilets?
I don't feel well
So, what have I missed for a BMPB ? What have I included that isn't really necessary ?
[*] A range (fantastic, brilliant, etc) also useful if you're going to be asked lots of questions
[**] Obviously an extensive list of nouns would be useful here. But you can do a lot with gesturing if necessary. I managed while in Italy to mime such things as "butter knife", "lens cap", "man who plays the melodeon", and "wine bar near the mask museum" without too much trouble.
My BMPB should be small enough to fit onto a piece of paper considerably smaller than most phrasebooks. It assumes general goodwill on the part of the people to whom one is speaking, and isn't intended to cover any specific circumstance.
Yes
No
Please
Thank you
Thank you very much
Hello
Goodbye
See you later
Great [*]
It doesn't matter
1-10, 100
Can you write it down, please? [mostly for numbers not covered above, or placenames]
What do you call this?
I would like... [**]
I need... [**]
I have lost... [**]
I would like to go to (here) [points to map, or points to written-down placename]
... something
... that one/this one.
... one like this.
Where are the toilets?
I don't feel well
So, what have I missed for a BMPB ? What have I included that isn't really necessary ?
[*] A range (fantastic, brilliant, etc) also useful if you're going to be asked lots of questions
[**] Obviously an extensive list of nouns would be useful here. But you can do a lot with gesturing if necessary. I managed while in Italy to mime such things as "butter knife", "lens cap", "man who plays the melodeon", and "wine bar near the mask museum" without too much trouble.
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Date: 2009-02-24 10:59 pm (UTC)And yet in BA, I was regularly told that my accent was excellent, even though I had a lot less Spanish than I used to have French. Bizarre. But imo Spanish is vastly easier than French. It's almost exactly like latin, for one thing. And pronunciation is standardised, so much less room to go wrong.
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Date: 2009-02-25 12:08 am (UTC)... and to me in America asking for the same.
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Date: 2009-02-25 03:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-02-25 05:09 pm (UTC)My Granddad has reported a similar experience with place names in the South of France. Everyone understood his French perfectly well until he tried to pronounce an unfamiliar place name, Blah-sur-Rhône or whatever, at which point there would be a lot of shrugging, grimacing, and questions like, "You want go where?", "Are you sure it's around here?". If he wrote it down everyone would say, "ah, Blah-sur-Rhône. Why didn't you say so?".
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Date: 2009-02-25 05:12 pm (UTC)Or possibly "toonafish", come to think of it. I don't know what other kind of tuna there is, aside from the fish.
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Date: 2009-02-25 06:14 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-02-26 08:58 am (UTC)