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In any normal circumstance, saying "turn left" to someone is a useful, sensible instruction. At least, providing the person you're talking to is able to get their left, er, right.

Somehow, though, when dancing rapper this phrase loses any meaning.

I'm not quite sure what the problem is. I think it might be partly that the person being told to turn is required to turn on-the-spot rather than in a more usual left-turn sort of sense. It might be that being caught in the middle of a tangled whirl of metal is disorientating. Or it might just be that when someone is already confused, shouting "left! left!" at them is never really going to help.

We've tried various strategies to deal with this. Saying to someone "turn the easy way" doesn't help. In theory, it should. The "easy way" is either the "short way" if they know which way they want to end facing (ie turning 90 degrees instead of 270), or if their arms are twisted, it's the way that untwists them. Again, this sort of instruction tends to result in a rabbit-in-the-headlights sort of panic as someone tries to work out which way to go.

I suppose this is the sort of reaction seen in other cases, too, when someone is confused and is required to act quickly and correctly. Quite why the stricken dithering is the human body's best way of coping remains a bit of a mystery. We all seem to do it, though.

Quite a common way of explaining turns is to say something like "turn left shoulder back". This is the same way as "turn left", but gives you something a bit more definite to grasp hold of if you're feeling a bit bewildered. Move your left shoulder backwards. Now keep turning that way.

Sometimes, though, describing things via the surroundings work better. After a failure with some "turn outwards" instructions to someone a few weeks back, I eventually opted for saying "face the window every time you turn". This of course, has its downsides... next time we're dancing in public rather than in our practice hall, you have to stop and work out where the windows, the toilets and the fire exit are to orientate yourself.

Last night we had one of your Occasional Mabels (people who live too far away to make regular practices, but can be drafted in for emergencies) along, as she's coming with us to Burton at the weekend. She kept getting a particular turn wrong. Instructions like "left shoulder back" and "the easy way" having failed, a useful description was eventually reached:

Turn as if you're going to punch Liz in the face with your right hand.

She got it right every time after that.

Scared now.

Date: 2004-09-22 05:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snow-leopard.livejournal.com
Ah now see I hate that. One of my housemates (and indeed thinking about it most men I know) give directions along the lines of "then you go North", North? How do I knoe which way is North? Can only assume men have some internal compass women are missing.

Date: 2004-09-22 06:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lanfykins.livejournal.com
Umm... I almost always know where North is. If I don't, I can generally work it out.

I don't ask for directions either.

Oh dear.

Date: 2004-09-22 06:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
You're not a girl at all, really, are you ?

Actually, I do remember reading somewhere that being able to locate north in any situation was a very Scottish trait. Sounded like a load of old cobblers to me. I shall regard you as an unfortunate anomaly rather than supporting evidence ;)

Date: 2004-09-22 06:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wimble.livejournal.com
My directional sense only works on the fairly large scale of journeys of at least 10 miles.

I usually know roughly which direction I've started in, and just keep an approximate track of how much I've turned in which direction (eg. M40 to London is East, so if I turn left I'm going North).

Failing that, there are useful landmarks, such as the M1 (North!).

Once I'm into the traditional "maze of twisty turny backroads", this does go to pot, as I'm usually more concerned with finding the "third turning on the left, then nextdoor to the house with the red door" than I am about worrying about which way I'm actually facing. And even on the middling scale, it can get thrown by non-obvious turns.

For example, Oxford's High Street runs East-West at the Carfax end, but has a non-obvious bend in it around Longwall Street. And Cowley Road doesn't actually run North-South (although I always think that it does. Actually it's Iffley Road that's North-South). Of course, since I know about those two, they're not a problem. But similar gimmicks in other places can throw me.

Date: 2004-09-22 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snow-leopard.livejournal.com
But, but, but how?
(Though I does have to be said that I am the extreme end of the scale and perfectly capable of getting lost ven if I vaugly know the area. I am however a great navigator - give me a map and I'm fine!)

Date: 2004-09-22 09:17 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chrisvenus
As a point of curiosity do you turn the map around so you are always driving "up" or do you keep the map the same orientation and compensate mentally?

Date: 2004-09-22 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snow-leopard.livejournal.com
Erm, well USUALLY I can orientate mentally, if its an especially confusing bit I will turn the map!

Date: 2004-09-22 07:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davefish.livejournal.com
I can't manage that, nor can I read maps effectively.

On the other hand, thinking of it as 'Having an adventure' rather than 'Being lost' makes everything seem much more positive.

Date: 2004-09-22 09:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chrisvenus
Nah. We all just like confusing women when giving directions so we can then claim that women are rubbish at navigating. :)

Date: 2004-09-22 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snow-leopard.livejournal.com
I am GREAT at navigating, I am just incapable of judging distances and can get lost on a tuppenny piece!

Date: 2004-09-22 09:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Actually... would this housemate of yours be [livejournal.com profile] inskauldrak ? If so, maybe I do have to take this Scottish theory (http://www.livejournal.com/users/venta/110613.html?thread=1416469#t1416469) slightly more seriously.

Date: 2004-09-22 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wimble.livejournal.com
But if his directions always include then you go North, they're precise, but inaccurate, and won't get you (for example) to Newbury.

Maybe he's just trying to prove that all roads lead to Home.

Date: 2004-09-22 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snow-leopard.livejournal.com
No its [livejournal.com profile] fluffymark, I don't think I have ever got directions from [livejournal.com profile] inskauldrak so I can't prove or disprove your Scottish Theory (other than [livejournal.com profile] fluffymark is not Scottish).

Date: 2004-09-24 08:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] addedentry.livejournal.com
Internal compass? I have one on my wristwatch.

Date: 2004-09-24 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snow-leopard.livejournal.com
Your wristwatch? When I was a child I had shoes with a compass in the soles but that would be rather less practical (hopping around on one foot trying to work out which was was North)

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