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Does anyone know how to explain to PINE what email address you want your mail to appear to come from ?

By editing the .pinerc file, I've managed to get the domain-name part of the address set (thank you [livejournal.com profile] failmaster), but the part-before-the-@ seems to be stuck as my unix username. Changing the personal-name field in the .pinerc file doesn't help.

For curiosity value only, is it possible to set the domain name from within PINE's own config system ? It seems like it ought to be doable without editing the file directly, but I can't find any evidence of it.

In other news, The Calendar says today is the feast day of St Drogo, a patron of coffeehouse owners and a protector against "gravel" in the urine.

Which is nice. I had no idea that getting gravel in your urine was a risk, but if it is I damn well want to be protected from it.

Date: 2004-04-16 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wimble.livejournal.com
Found somewhere in the documentation that [livejournal.com profile] bateleur referenced:
user-id

PC-Pine only and personal configuration file only. Sets the username that is placed on all outgoing messages. The username is the part of the address that comes before the "@". The easiest way to change the full From address is with the customized-hdrs variable.


Which kind of implies that if the thing you've tried doesn't work, then you're out of options with Pine.

Any reason why you need to send stuff from within the unix box providing your domainname anyway? You could just send it from your PC, having set the from address (which is what I do).

Date: 2004-04-16 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Any reason why you need to send stuff from within the unix box providing your domainname anyway? You could just send it from your PC

Because that requires me to be in the same physical location as my PC. Which I'm not when, for example, at work.

(And I don't want to leave my laptop running all the time, so logging in remotely isn't a very sensible option either.)

Date: 2004-04-16 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wimble.livejournal.com
Same principle applies though: using Opera here, I've got two (well, five actually) accounts. One checks my personal mailbox, and uses my own email address for outgoing email. 3 check my work email (via 2 different POP servers, and 1 IMAP), and use my work email address on outgoing email.

Which is why, occasionally, you've had email from my work address: I forgot to switch accounts before I hit send.

Mutt, incidentally, actually allows rules for this sort of thing, so it can automagically switch the From: line according to the contents of the To: line, and finger trouble becomes a thing of the past.

This isn't going to work if your work mail server is "too strict" and insists that it will only relay mail if either the "From:" or "To:" lines specify an account in your domain (rather than allowing any machine in the domain to send, irrespective of the fields). However, I'd suspect your sysadmins are lenient enough to use the useful definition. Unless the reorganization has turned them into jobsworths.

Date: 2004-04-16 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Firstly, I don't think the mailserver is IMAP-friendly.
Secondly, you have the knowledge to organise this kind of set up, I don't. And yes, someone else might do it for me, but I'd rather have a set up I understand and can maintain myself.
Thirdly, when our horrible work .sig was introduced ages back, I asked about the possibility of popping my own mail here and using that instead of my work mail, and was told that I couldn't sent mail via Tao's mailservers which didn't have the .sig appended.

Date: 2004-04-16 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wimble.livejournal.com
Your reading in complications I didn't intend to imply. Basically, by adding a second account, my Windows-based mail client allows me to pick which From: line I want. But, on the other hand, I don't get a large legalise footer forced onto my emails, I can see that as being a reason to use a different mail server.

(I've actually set my home box up to act as a secure mail relay, so I can send mail through that, irrespective of the domain my machine is living in. I can add you to the access list, if you wish.)

Date: 2004-04-16 06:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
By popping my mail home, and shelling in the rest of the time, I don't end up with the problem of copies of sent mail ending up all over the show (or of having to send myself copies). Which is one of the things I most keen to avoid: I'd like as much of my mail as possible to be as accessible as possible from anywhere.

And to be as simple-to-operate as possible. I can cope with PINE :)

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