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Apologies to the dieters out there. After yesterday's chocolate outburst, today it's biscuits.

Yesterday, [livejournal.com profile] grumblesmurf was heard to wonder, while rummaging in the biscuit tin, why Garibaldi biscuits were so named. What was the link between revolutionaries and biscuits ?

Being blessed both with a reputation for knowing useless trivia and with the ability to say anything with a straight face, I nearly managed to persuade him that Garibaldi invented them. Sadly, his natural curmudgeonly suspicion carried the day, and I had to concede I was making it up. I promised to find out why they were called after the Italian chap.

So, I typed "Why are Garibaldi biscuits so called?" into AskJeeves. I'd like to report that for once in his life, Jeeves came back with the right answer; I'm sure that would make a nice narrative twist. However, he didn't, he produced his usual meaningless pile of garbage. I only tried to give the old boy a chance.

A lengthy session with google produced nothing much more informative. One encyclopaedia says they are named after Garibaldi "apparently arbitrarily", and there are vague references to them being named "in his honour".

The only explanation going seems to be from an off hand remark on the home page of Stirling, in Scotland:

All that remains of Scotland's love of Garibaldi today is our fondness for Garibaldi biscuits, which had their origin in the flour and raisin rations for his army.

Which is plausible, I guess.

It's quite interesting, you know, the number of biscuits that are named after revolutionaries. You've got your Garibaldi, of course, you've got your Bourbons, then of course you've got your Peek Freens Trotsky Assortment.

I'll post a squashed-fly biscuit to the first person who can, without cheating, correctly attribute that quote.

(Cheating is defined as using search-engines, searching offline databases, or anything else I arbitrarily and retroactively define to be cheating.)

Date: 2004-02-26 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stompyboots.livejournal.com
I haven't got a clue, but I like biscuits, so I'm guessing Eddie Izzard. (Even though I've not seen/heard any of his work, it sounds like the sort of thing people have quoted at me in the past.)

Date: 2004-02-26 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Actually, now you mention it, it does sound very like something Mr Izzard might say. But no.

You really should check out his stuff though, it's very funny.

Date: 2004-02-26 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stompyboots.livejournal.com
You realise I'm going to keep on guessing until someone else gets it or you post me a biscuit to shut me up, don't you?

1. Stalin
2. Jethro Tull
3. Jonathan Ross
4. Barbara Windsor
5. John Lydon

I'll be back with more later, as I think the above are untenable. It would be funny if one were true, though. ;)

Date: 2004-02-26 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
All right, all right, I'll post you a biscuit!

Call it an award for correct use of the subjunctive in the above comment, or something. Mail me your address or provide the name of a reputable supplier of correctly-trained homing pigeons.

Date: 2004-02-26 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stompyboots.livejournal.com
When using hoing (think I'll keep that typo in) pigeons, I always trust Renardo's. Hoing pigeons with true pimp style.

(Address is on its way over in a minute.)

Date: 2004-02-26 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] addedentry.livejournal.com
Alexei Sayle, yesno?

But I hope I've got it wrong if you're going to carry out your threat.

Date: 2004-02-26 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
It is indeed Alexei Sayle. But I want the context as well, so you can decline to answer and leave the squashed flies to someone else.

Depends whether your fear of Garibaldis or your desire to display your pop culture knowledge is stronger, I guess :)

Date: 2004-02-26 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] narenek.livejournal.com
From an episode of the Young Ones?

Date: 2004-02-26 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Aye, close enough.

Further bisuitage to anyone who can say which episode, though.

Date: 2004-02-26 03:49 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] uitlander
Can't remember the name of the episode, but its definately not the University Challenge one.

Is it the one where hte house gets destroyed - 'Bomb' I think?

Date: 2004-02-26 11:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grumblesmurf.livejournal.com
Actually, you're wrong. :)

It *is* the University Challenge episode, which is called 'Bambi'.

The relevant scene it comes from is just after Rik complains about the train being stopped (because Vyvyan pulls the emergency stop cord after he's stuck his head out of the window and it's been lopped off). This would be just after Vyv's finished doing his revision from the Daily Mirror Book of Facts and has gone off to 'stuff loads and loads of paper down the toilet'.

Not that I happen to know that episode reasonably well or anything...

I must have been unconsciously channelling Alexei as it wasn't a deliberate quote inspired by a tin full of Garibaldis.

I'll pass on the biscuit this time though Liz, but you can score bonus points if you can find me an MP3 of 'Dr Martens Boots'. :)

Date: 2004-02-27 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Indeed, it is the University Challenge episode. Complete script here (http://www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/hawkslane/231/yo21.html) if anyone's interested/unconvinced.

Dr Marten's, Dr Marten's, Dr Marten's BOOTS!

Can't oblige, I'm afraid :(

Date: 2004-02-26 03:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maviscruet.livejournal.com
Damn I know it was Alexi Sayle. Not sure of the context, unless of course it was the Young One's. But damned if I know why....

Which is a shame as I LOVE squashed fly biscuits, the only other biscuit that comes close is the Figgy Roll.

Date: 2004-02-26 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
I've been thinking I don't like squashed fly biscuits. But then it occurrs to me that I probably haven't eaten one in twenty years, I should give them another go.

Fig rolls, however, rock. Absolutely.

Date: 2004-02-26 03:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
By the way, did you notice that The Calendar had a wholly irrelevant word about weather yesterday, and today they have a word relating to Ash Wednesday ?

Bad planning, I call it.

Date: 2004-02-26 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maviscruet.livejournal.com
I'd not noticed that. But your right.

However I did notice that Ash wednesday was commented on above teh date, but Shrove tuesday was not.....

And is "pulveration" really a lost word?. I mean I know what that means because i know the word "pulverise".

Date: 2004-02-26 04:10 am (UTC)
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Additional context: Sayle used the same joke in his 1984 novel Train To Hell.

I'm impressed.

Date: 2004-02-26 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Ooh. Top trivia point to you. But no biscuit :)

Date: 2004-03-01 06:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Being blessed both with a reputation for knowing useless trivia and with the ability to say anything with a straight face, I nearly managed to persuade him that Garibaldi invented them

What was even more worrying was that today I managed to convince a colleague that Bourbons were so called because they were made with whisky.

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