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A round up of minor arcanities:

Today's word from the calendar is assishness. So far the calendar has produced around half-and-half words which could feasibly be slotted into conversations - this is one such, meaning (unsurprisingly) "asinine quality, stupidity". So off you go: use it today three times in conversation, and once in your LJ.

Having now finished reading Eats, Shoots and Leaves, I can report that I am a fan of the Oxford comma. Which is apparently the correct name for the controversial comma inserted after the penultimate item in a list. So: our main weapons are surprise, our nice red uniforms, and a fanatical dedication to the Pope. See the comma after uniforms ? That's an Oxford comma, that is. I've got no idea why it's so named. And while I don't always put it in lists, sometimes it's very handy. Everyone with an interest in writing should read Eats, Shoots and Leaves, by the way. It manages to steer a pleasingly sane course between the extremes of "punctuation is set in stone" and "punctuation doesn't matter at all".

And, looking for something else, I found this website. Which contains all sorts of odd facts about how to splice tape and create different effects thereby. I don't believe I'm likely to do this, but it interested me none-the-less. Reminded me of the day a schoolfriend and I discovered that you could turn tape inside out to play songs backwards, and spent an educational afternoon looking for hidden messages in songs. We didn't find any.

Date: 2004-01-14 05:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Having now finished reading Eats, Shoots and Leaves

And, not as advertised, I am now not reading Foucault's Pendulum. Sorry, [livejournal.com profile] satyrica :)

This is because the book I borrowed from [livejournal.com profile] snow_leopard, which I thought was Foucault's Pendulum actually turns out to be The Island of the Day Before. So I'm reading that instead :)

Date: 2004-01-14 06:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wimble.livejournal.com
So I s'pose it ought to be Eats, Shoots, and Leaves.

The reason I'm not a fan of of this is that, although it clears up:
I went shopping at Tesco's, Boots', and Marks and Spencers', it doesn't help if there are three things listed in the compound term, such as groups of lawyers:
I'm dithering between Smith, Jones, and Davies, Loeck, Stuch, and Barl, or This, That, and the Other.

I *believe* it's the Oxford Comma because OUP, or at least the OED, insist on its use. But there are no references to this in the text I've got to hand.

Date: 2004-01-14 06:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
The reason I'm not a fan of of this is that, although it clears up:
[example snipped]


Er... so you don't like it because it only does one job, not two ? Do you have a better solution ?

I like what it does, when it does it. I didn't say it was infallible :)

Date: 2004-01-14 08:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wimble.livejournal.com
Ah. Now, I don't think they're two separate problems: the second one is an extension of the first. In my view, the problem with the Oxford Comma is that it complicates matters, without going far enough.

Actually, this is partially a reaction to the pedantry of OED lexicographers, who will completely ignore the meaning of an email, whilst (or while ;) still complaining about the missing comma.

Of course, the OED is a bit of a special case, since it does consist mainly of lists, and quite frequently lists of lists. In normal writing, you rarely get such constructs, and the Oxford Comma works quite adequately: I've re-started using it myself!

Oxford comma

Date: 2004-01-14 07:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] addedentry.livejournal.com
To hand is Hart's Rules for Compositors and Readers at the University Press, Oxford (37th ed., 1967):
Where and joins two single words or phrases the comma is usually omitted:
The honourable and learned member.
But where more than two words or phrases occur together in a sequence a comma should precede the final and:
A great, wise, and beneficient measure.
Good to see a sentence beginning with but there.

Date: 2004-01-14 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waistcoatmark.livejournal.com
Confusion like that is probably why they print the title of the book on its cover.

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