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At the weekend I was in Morrison's. Unlike the last post, where I was confused and actually in the Co-op, I was actually really in Morrison's. I didn't even want any stir-fry mix, I was just curious...

See?

Vegetables that are fine to eat raw, but still the injunction not to do so.

Is there something about the shredding process that might introduce bacteria, or something?

For comparison, the mother reports that slightly-less-mundane-but-frozen stir fry mix from Morrison's doesn't mind if you eat it raw.

Date: 2015-03-16 01:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lnr
Neneh Cherry!

Date: 2015-03-16 01:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lnr
And no, I've not a clue why you can't eat it raw either.

Date: 2015-03-16 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com

One kudo to you :)

Date: 2015-03-16 02:12 pm (UTC)
lnr: (Pen-y-ghent)
From: [personal profile] lnr
It is providing a much better earworm than the "I am a shape" song from Mr Maker.

Date: 2015-03-16 02:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lnr
It is providing a much better earworm than the "I am a shape" song from Mr Maker.

Date: 2015-03-16 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-alchemist.livejournal.com
I think I've heard that although small quantities are OK, eating larger quantities of raw mushrooms is quite bad for you? So maybe they put that on all raw mushroom containing things?

Date: 2015-03-16 06:34 pm (UTC)
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I wonder if it is just to do with food hygiene and disinfection? There's always hoo-hah about bagged salad and whether you should wash it, and whether it's going to have been washed and cleaned well enough to be fine when stored in bags, and I guess they can side-step that whole issue here because it can be reasonably expected that you'll cook stir-fry mix, and heat disinfection is pretty damn effective against the immediately-living sorts of food bacteria.

(As I understand it, it's not that shredding would introduce bacteria so much as that it'll spread around the bacteria that were bound to be on the surface anyway, and they'll carry on growing (albeit slowly) in that bag in the fridge unless it's been disinfected, which it's hard to do to fragile vegetabley things without affecting their flavour or texture. And the frozen thing actually backs that up because while you'll still get some growth in a fridge, if something's been chopped and then immediately frozen then there'll be pretty much zero bacterial growth in the meantime, so its bacterial status would be much closer to the situation where you'd just freshly chopped up some normally-washed veg yourself.)

Date: 2015-03-16 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com

Mm, yes, I didn't really mean "introduce"bacteria, now you mention it. I think I'm liking this theory best of all so far.


I'm almost tempted to write to the major supermarkets and ask!

Date: 2015-03-16 08:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shermarama
I wonder if it is just to do with food hygiene and disinfection? There's always hoo-hah about bagged salad and whether you should wash it, and whether it's going to have been washed and cleaned well enough to be fine when stored in bags, and I guess they can side-step that whole issue here because it can be reasonably expected that you'll cook stir-fry mix, and heat disinfection is pretty damn effective against the immediately-living sorts of food bacteria.

(As I understand it, it's not that shredding would introduce bacteria so much as that it'll spread around the bacteria that were bound to be on the surface anyway, and they'll carry on growing (albeit slowly) in that bag in the fridge unless it's been disinfected, which it's hard to do to fragile vegetabley things without affecting their flavour or texture. And the frozen thing actually backs that up because while you'll still get some growth in a fridge, if something's been chopped and then immediately frozen then there'll be pretty much zero bacterial growth in the meantime, so its bacterial status would be much closer to the situation where you'd just freshly chopped up some normally-washed veg yourself.)

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