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I avoided all the BBC frothing about bad grammar the other day. Much as I like a well-placed apostrophe, the sort of people who say "I think you'll find you mean 'fewer'" are, largely, arses (up with whom one should not put).

However, a nice grammar quiz? oh yes, that sounds like fun. I can answer it and feel all smug. Except, of course, I disagreed with it.

Question 3: Read this sentence carefully. "I'd like to introduce you to my sister Clara, who lives in Madrid, to Benedict, my brother who doesn't, and to my only other sibling, Hilary." Which of the following is correct?

1. Hilary is male
2. Hilary is female
3. It's impossible to know from the context


Now, the BBC's answer is that Hilary is male, because there isn't a comma after 'brother'. Benedict is described as "my brother who doesn't [live in Madrid]", so there must also be another brother, and thus that brother must be only-other-sibling Hilary.

I claim the answer is morally 3: it's impossible to tell. Because I, for one, got so lost among the commas of that god-awful sentence that I was frankly quite bewildered enough by the end without worrying about whether Hilary was a boy or a girl. Good grammar aids clarity, it doesn't reduce English to a puzzle of whether you knew the rules well enough to divine the writer's intent correctly. If your reader has to count commas to understand your statement, you've already got it monumentally wrong.

Bah.

Date: 2013-05-17 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com
Looking at usage of 'sit yourself' vs 'seat yourself', this is interesting:
http://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=sit+yourself%2Cseat+yourself&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=18&smoothing=3&share=

The US pattern is similarish but sit has not yet overtaken: http://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=sit+yourself%2Cseat+yourself&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=18&smoothing=3&share=

Not a sophisticated enough query to prove anything much, but it might be indicative.

Date: 2013-05-17 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] eniel
*nods* Yes, it does seem to infer that the differences between the verbs are being progressively erased. Thanks for the link!

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