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A million years ago, when I'd just left university, I was chatting to someone who told me she was a project manager. Oh yes, I said, what does that involve?

It means making sure the project is completed in time, she said.

I suspect at that point, for me, the word "project" still conjured up ring binders and lots of carefully cut-out pictures and geography field trips. I asked what she actually did on a day to day basis.

Oh, anything and everything, she said. Whatever it takes. Anything necessary to bring the project in.

Eventually I gave up, none the wiser.

These days, I have a little more grasp of project management. I understand the principles, though I'm still a little hazy about what a project manager actually does from one minute to the next.

If someone tells me they're a doctor, or a teacher, or a supermarket shelf-stacker then I understand (more or less) what they do. If they tell me they're a business systems analyst, or a health information technician then... well, to be honest, no idea. Someone who describes themselves as a manager or a civil servant could do pretty much anything.

But even for comprehensible jobs like dentist, or full-time parent, I don't really know how the day pans out. Is it wall to wall tooth-drilling/child-wrangling? Are there gaps of time where other, unexpected, stuff has to be fitted in? When someone says they're preparing a marketing campaign, how is their time spent? What does preparing samples in a lab actually involve? What do accountants really do?

So, tomorrow, I invite you to blog about your working day. On Monday February 4th - specifically - what did you do with your day? I'm more interested in the minutiae than the overarching goals - did you spend all your time writing emails? Were the mails answering questions or demanding answers? Maybe you were sitting in meetings, or travelling from A to B, or operating machinery, or selling things to other companies. Was it a normal, predictable Monday?

Tag it "mundane monday", and invite your friends to do the same...

Date: 2013-02-03 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
... and if anyone can tell me a way to find posts (across all users) with a particular tag, that'd be great. I'm sure there used to be tools for that, but now can't find any...

Date: 2013-02-04 08:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bopeepsheep.livejournal.com
LJ won't let you, but you could either make a post in which people can post their entries as links, or open a community in which people can crosspost. :)

Date: 2013-02-04 10:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Bother, that's annoying. It used to be possible to get graphs of tag use (one year [livejournal.com profile] bateleur challenged us all to get "moose" to be the #1 tag used over Christmas)... but old links to such graphs no longer work. I wonder if LJ deprecated the APIs for them :(

A community seems a bit OTT. I'll have to hope I just stumble across things, I think (and thanks for re-posting on your own LJ).

Date: 2013-02-04 08:40 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-03 11:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com
I'm not a project manager yet, but I'm a project co-ordinator and I sometimes deputise for my manager, so I can tell you what I do.

It really is anything and everything. The detail depends a lot on the project, but the project manager's role is to make sure the project runs to schedule and meets its targets. The job starts with writing a project plan covering every aspect of the project - what the goals are, what the timings are, what resources (IT, personnel, equipment) are needed and what the budget is to supply them. After that it's a case of managing the project team, keeping track of expenditure, monitoring progress towards targets and taking action if targets aren't being met for whatever reason. The project manager will usually produce monthly reports for senior management tracking progress and detailing any areas in which the project is falling behind, the impact of these, and what is being done to rectify them.

Date: 2013-02-04 08:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sea-of-flame.livejournal.com
(not a project manager, but I'm a management accountant, which sometimes has similarities on the informational whack-a-rat/kitten-herding side of things ;)

As an aside - it probably helps to visualise this if you realise how *big* the projects in question are if they need a PM -- it's definitely not just a case of having all the right coloured felt tip pens to get your A3 wall chart done in time for Mrs Simmons biology class on Tuesday ;)

The example our lecturer used to pull out (yep, accountants do study PM a bit) was the Olympics - it had to happen on time; on budget: conform to health&safety - not to mention additional national security - standards; keep all the subcontractors working to those same standards & manage any conflicts between them...etcetc. Basically, if you could think of something complicated that could go wrong with the Olympics, you could probably turn it into a good example of something a PM would be meant to work to get right instead. There's a lot of delegation, but it's trying to get the whole machine working smoothly.

Date: 2013-02-04 09:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
I think that...

After that it's a case of managing the project team, keeping track of expenditure, monitoring progress towards targets

... is really the level of detail at which I mean I fall down. What does "managing the project team" mean? How much time does it take (obviously depends on the size of the team)? Is it just a matter of asking person A on a Monday what they're doing this week (or telling them) and checking on Friday that they did it? Hence the request for a tedious breakdown of a single day :)

(Other than about ten minutes every three weeks, I'm rarely aware of my manager actually doing anything to manage me... I presume managers must do something, but it's always baffled me as to what.)

Date: 2013-02-04 12:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lanfykins.livejournal.com
I've always rather regarded managers are people who attend meetings so that I don't have to :)

Date: 2013-02-04 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com
It really depends on the team and the management style - some managers are able to be very hands-off and just let the team set their own priorities and get on with it, and some need to give their team a bit more guidance.

I can't really write a Mundane Monday as today isn't a normal Monday really... but here's today:

10:30am - arrive at work
10:30am - 11:00am - check emails and flag any that need to be dealt with. Discover boss is WFH as she has a flu-type bug
11:00am - 12:00pm - reply to event bookings and queries
12:00pm - 12:30pm - write website post about upcoming event
12:30pm - 1.30pm - lunch and getting refreshments for evening meeting
1.30pm - 2.00pm - printing & collating documents and packing trolley bag for evening meeting
2:00pm - 3:30pm - implementing look and feel changes on website (with Online Community Manager)
3:30pm - 5:00pm - travelling
5:00pm - 5:30pm - meeting setup
5:30pm - 7:00pm - delivering meeting
7:00pm - 7:30pm - meeting takedown
7:30pm - hometime

Like I say, a non-standard day - I normally work 9-5 and don't normally do evening work. But we're short-handed at the moment.

Date: 2013-02-04 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com
Project management? it can sometimes be a bit.. manic? Very often I wish I were kissing Valentino by a crystal blue Italian stream.

(do I get bonus kudos for knowing that the song was written by Prince, because one of the Bangles used to be his backing singer?)
Edited Date: 2013-02-04 12:23 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-04 08:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bopeepsheep.livejournal.com
Then I claim bonus kudos for knowing that it's credited to Christopher, not Prince, because he was attempting (and totally failing) to hide that fact.

And on the 12" single are Dover Beach, Going Down To Liverpool, and In A Different Light. I played that record almost to death for about 2 years. :D

Date: 2013-02-04 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
I think that might be the sort of level of detail that earns you a funny look rather than a kudo ;)

I'm impressed, mind.

Date: 2013-02-04 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bopeepsheep.livejournal.com
*g* I think Dover Beach is still one of my favourite 80s songs, after all this time.

Date: 2013-02-04 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com
Thanks, I've had 'Going Down to Liverpool' stuck in my head all day now.

Date: 2013-02-04 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Project management? it can sometimes be a bit.. manic?

Only 1/7 of the time, I hear. You may have a kudo :)

Date: 2013-02-04 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bopeepsheep.livejournal.com
I am not working, and Mondays are not a typical childcare day for me, but I will happily blog next Monday (first day of half-term) in detail if you like. :)

(Today: do anything I want until 4pm; go by bus to collect [livejournal.com profile] smallclanger from after-school orchestra; return by bus; walk to [livejournal.com profile] narenek's; cook dinner for all three of us; eat; send [livejournal.com profile] smallclanger off to tae kwondo with [livejournal.com profile] narenek; go to [livejournal.com profile] glittertigger's; go home. Next week will be quite different!)

Date: 2013-02-04 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
In that case, I will see you at [livejournal.com profile] glittertigger's later :)

Date: 2013-02-04 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bopeepsheep.livejournal.com
Excellent! :)

Date: 2013-02-04 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pseudomonas.livejournal.com
When I get a job, I'll let you know.

Date: 2013-02-04 01:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lnr
Heh, you would pick the first day I'm *not* at work, and won't be for over a year :)

I may blog my day for you anyway mind.

Here it is: http://lnr.livejournal.com/616738.html
Edited Date: 2013-02-05 12:50 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-04 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snow-leopard.livejournal.com
On the whole my days runs along the lines of "swear at varies pieces of IT kit and cry at the general technical incompetence of the general population". Its not very glamourous. I do get to do a lot of climbing under desks and into dusty comms cabinets (if you find that sort of thing exciting).

Date: 2013-02-04 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com
'tis done!
Edited Date: 2013-02-04 09:26 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-04 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leathellin.livejournal.com
Here - http://leathellin.livejournal.com/141089.html
'Tis locked though (sorry people not on the locked list).

Date: 2013-02-04 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lathany.livejournal.com
Done! Although it is locked as work is a bit sensitive at this time of year.

Monday February 4th

Date: 2013-02-04 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] livejournal.livejournal.com
User [livejournal.com profile] bateleur referenced to your post from Monday February 4th (http://bateleur.livejournal.com/367343.html) saying: [...] Yesterday asked [...]

Date: 2013-02-04 11:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shermarama
Hi. I saw motodraconis doing this and thought it might be an interesting thing to do, so mine is here. (I'm an engineer.)

Date: 2013-02-05 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Hello, nice to meet you!

:)

Date: 2013-02-05 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cardinalsin.livejournal.com
Sadly I was on leave on the 4th. Sadface.

Date: 2013-02-05 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Wegular Wednesday, instead?

Date: 2013-02-05 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cardinalsin.livejournal.com
I wish it were wegular wednesday but it weally won't be, 'cause I'll still be on weave. I'm working next week.

Date: 2013-02-06 05:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] triskellian
I like this kind of game, and have enjoyed reading other people's, but was on leave on Monday, and as a result, am sufficiently far behind on the week that I'm only now seeing it. Might do Thundane Thursday tomorrow instead, if that's permitted?

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