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So, having got all those bank holidays out the way I figured it was time to give the Hot Yoga another go.

My first venture, last week, was to a Hot Flow Yoga class, which is a relentless 90 minutes of one pose after another. Admittedly, the last half hour or so is mostly lying-down stuff, but even so, it's hard going, and hard to follow along if you don't know the postures. Add in that the class was rammed full of people, and I was feeling pretty good about having managed to keep up (mostly) for the full time.

Last night, it was a Hot Yoga class with a different instructor whose class seemed much slower-paced and gentler. Each posture, or series of moves, was repeated twice making it much easier for a newbie to follow along. There are also short rest periods between each set. The class was also barely half full, giving me plenty of space to flail around in and clear views both of the instructor and of myself in the mirror. And I felt like shit on a stick for pretty much the entire 90 minutes :(

Almost from the start I felt light-headed, dizzy and really nauseous. My muscles seemed to want to go into cramp in almost any position. In fact, I felt exactly how I might have predicted I'd feel if attempting to spend an hour and a half exercising in a stupidly hot room. I stayed in the class, but spent protracted periods sitting or lying on my mat, and by the end of it all was very shaky and strongly inclined to burst into tears.

So, not a roaring success. Had this been my first experience, I think I'd be saying "well, I always thought hanging out at 42° was a stupid idea" and never going back. However, at present it's sort of 1-all and I have most of 3 weeks of my paid-for trial-period left to use up, so I guess I'll risk it at least once more.

Before anyone notes the reference to muscle cramp and says ha! you were dehydrated, I don't think that's the problem. Knowing I was taking myself off for a toasting in the evening, I'd had my nose firmly in the water trough all afternoon.

My current speculation is actually that I may not have eaten enough. It's not like I'd been skipping meals (having had my usual breakfast-at-7, lunch-at-1), but I hadn't had a mid-afternoon smackerel of anything and the class is at 6:15. And on reflection, yesterday's bento box was perhaps not as substantial as it might have been. I didn't feel underfed, but on the way home I realised I recognised the sort of shaky, panicky feeling. I hoovered up an M&S chicken sandwich as I passed through the station, and felt quite a lot better.

(Incidentally, in view of my suspicions, I went for something from M&S's "Fuller Longer[*]" range, which advertises itself as "high protein, balanced carbs". Maybe someone with some actual knowledge of actual nutrition can tell me whether that was a sensible course of action.)

So, yes. New exercise regime not an unqualified success thus far :)

[*] If only the adverts were done by Radiohead ;)

Date: 2012-06-08 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] motodraconis.livejournal.com
I came back from Bruges looking weirdly swollen, I didn't think I'd eaten or drunk that much FFS! That's all gone now.
I'm trying to tone up, never doing poxy calorie counting again, but eating stuff my body seems to like (fruit and protein, no carb.) Going to try alternating strict weeks with not so strict but still low carb weeks. I'm on less strict week at the mo, with a table booked at a hungarian restaurant with a chum tomorrow and possibly curry with workmates tonight, so fainting from hunger is unlikely.
I crave salty foods anyway, and took bikram as an excuse to liberably salt my fish dinners even more than usual. Seems to be working as I'm cramp free and ok with the bikram so far.
Your cramp seems excessive, has a doctor not managed to get to the bottom of the issue?

Date: 2012-06-08 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
No/low carb eating has really never appealed to me at all, but if your body is doing well on it then go for it :) I often find salty food quite unappealing, but cooking more Japanese stuff has effectively upped my salt intake as I'm now motoring through the soy sauce.

I've never asked a doctor about cramp - mostly because it's only recently I've realised maybe other people regard it as excessive. If you've had something all your life - like being able to deliberately induce cramp at will, any time, in your legs and feet - you don't realise it's at all unusual :)

I guess I might ask about it, but my experience of doctors is that if it isn't actually life-threatening, they don't tend to put much effort into finding things out. I seem to have gone to the doctors over the years with so many weird issues that have ultimately been abandoned undiagnosed that I'm sure they think I'm a total hypochondriac.

Date: 2012-06-08 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] motodraconis.livejournal.com
The cramp by itself might not be an issue, but if its connected to something that makes you feel so ill when exercising, it might be worth checking it out. From reading your lj you come across as pretty fit (rapper and clogs) and you eat well (bento.) Bikram is fiendish, but it shouldn't be effecting you that much.

Date: 2012-06-12 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Last night's toasty yoga class went fine without me feeling ill once, so I think I'm sticking to the idea that last week was a one off. If it happens again I'll take myself off to the doctor :)

Date: 2012-06-13 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sammason.livejournal.com
I'm glad that you're thinking about salt. As you know, I've recently increased my salt intake quite a lot and it makes a real difference to my digestion and hence to my sleep. Not to mention getting me off the drink-pee yoyo that I'd been on for many years. Yet whenever I talk to a healthcare professional about it, they give disapproving looks. Imo the advice to 'eat less salt' has got quite out of hand.

I think salt it likely to be esp relevant when doing Hot Yoga because sweat contains salt (that's why it tastes salty!) and when you're sweating out salt, you need to take in salt.

Date: 2012-06-13 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Last year, in some hot weather, I was having real issues with cramp and experimented with increasing salt but it didn't seem to do anything for me. I ended up mixing up a pint of a zero-cal sports drink and having that before bed each night, which seemed to fix it. (Zero-cal because I didn't need the "energy" part of the drink when going to sleep, just the electrolytes and such).

I should probably lay in a new stock of the drink powder in case we ever decide to have a proper summer this year.

I do agree about the salt (at least in theory), I've just never managed to notice any difference in myself if I put more/less in my diet.

(Out of interest, I headed to Wikipedia to see what it said the risks of a high-salt diet are. And it seems that they are rather less certain than I think we're usually led to believe (assuming Wikipedia is correct, etc, etc). I also got distracted reading about Dysautonomia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysautonomia), which can be treated with a high-salt diet... )
Edited Date: 2012-06-13 03:22 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-06-14 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sammason.livejournal.com
Recently while working with medical students, I learned why the standard rehydration mix includes sugar as well as salt. I'd have to look it up to remember why it is, but it's not just about making it taste nicer. I don't know what's in the zero-cal sports drinks.

Some years ago, during a safari in the Australian Outback, my travel companion got a UTI. Until we got her to hospital in Alice Springs (where she got intravenous rehydration and antibiotics, then made a full recovery) the only things she could take were isotonic sports drinks.

Date: 2012-06-14 10:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
I think the sugar is present because (for reasons I am not clear on) it makes the body more able to absorb the salt. Although I think that is something I read on the internet once, so proper medical students may have a different and more correct answer :)

Before starting on the sports drinks, I did try drinking the home-made WHO-recommended water/sugar/salt mixture, because I'd always rather not spend money :) Sadly, I found it so vile to drink that I decided I was willing to spend the money. I mean, I'm sure I'd choose drinking it over dying of cholera, but in less extreme circumstances it'll be sports drinks all the way!

Date: 2012-06-14 10:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sammason.livejournal.com
PS I followed your link about dysautonomia and had to ward off my inner hypochondriac! It's an interesting link, and who knows why it doesn't mention MS. It does mention several conditions suffered by people on [livejournal.com profile] friendly_crips so feel free to post the link there if you wish.

Date: 2012-06-14 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
I don't currently read [livejournal.com profile] friendly_crips, because as part of my strategy of wasting less time on the internet I decided a while back to stay away from communities (as distinct from personal journals). I don't know if not being a member means I can't post, but regardless I'd feel a little rude turning up, posting, and leaving :)

If you think the link would be of interest to people there then please do mention it next time you're posting, if you'd like to.

Date: 2012-06-14 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sammason.livejournal.com
Anybody can comment on that comm but only members can post. It's the way I set the settings wot dunnit. So if you ever decide that you'd like to post there just go ahead and join us. I'm completely partisan as you'll have noticed! always delighted when anybody joins and when anybody posts or comments.

But I do respect your decision to stay away from comms. They can eat your life, can't they? Several comms of which I'm a member aren't in my Default View filter so I don't see them automatically on my Friends page.

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