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Yesterday, at the jobcentre, I had all my journalistic stereotypes confirmed.

First waiting area: Oxford Mail, tabloid, all pictures and giant text on the front page. Pages 1-n dedicated to the distressingly lenient sentence handed out to a Blackbird Leys man who raped a ten year old girl.
Second waiting area: Oxford Times, broadsheet, dense text on front page. Page 1 dedicated to the interaction of Seera, the local government, and various cabinet members over the problems of new-build housing in Oxfordshire.

I read the story about the rapist and thought that yes, 18 months for raping a child is pretty short. And the judge's comments that she dressed provocatively and "older than her age" were shockingly out of order.

Having checked up on the letter of the law (Sexual Offences Act 2003) any sexual intercourse with an under-13 is rape. Further hunting about in news stories online revealed that yes, the sex had been "consensual" and it was the above Act that made it rape. Further, the doctors who'd examined the girl thought she was in her mid-teens.

So, there are two stories here:
Man attacks and rapes child in park, child blamed for dressing provocatively.
Man has what he believes to be consensual sex with someone he believes to be of consenting age, but turns out to be wrong.

Both of these describe criminal offences. But it my mind they are rather different crimes, even though the offence with which the man will be charged is the same. So hey, tabloid reports sensationalist version of story, no surprises there.

News reports come complete with a series of outraged statements from local MPs, children's charity spokesmen, local mothers and critics of the judicial system, all along the lines of "there's no excuse for raping a ten year old, however she dresses". Which is, of course, the sort of statement it's impossible to disagree with. There is no excuse for raping a ten year old (or anyone of any other age).

What I have begun to wonder is whether it is impossible to avoid the sensationalism. I can't think of anyone who, if asked by a newspaper for comment, would be willing to say anything other than how dreadful it is. Even writing this I've been wondering whether it'll trigger a stream of comments from people who think that I'm excusing child rape.

In general, what a rape victim is wearing when attacked should be completely immaterial. However when an important issue is the perceived age of the victim, then dressing "older than her age" is actually relevant. It isn't simply a bigoted judge blaming the victim. It doesn't prevent a crime from having been committed; it might (and I presume it did) affect the sentencing.

I do wonder how the story would have been received by the media had it been accompanied by a photo of the girl. I'm genuinely curious to know whether a claim to have mistaken her for 16 is actually reasonable, whether people might have been more sympathetic towards the defendant. I appreciate that this can't be done without compromising the victim's rights, which take precedence.

I'll wait with interest to see whether the Attorney General does indeed conclude that the sentence was "unduly lenient" - and how many people will call for his resignation if he does not.

On a separate note, I was also somewhat baffled by comments from the BBC's report: "Judge Hall said in sentencing he faced a moral dilemma as the fact they had sex within 45 minutes of meeting was an absolute crime."

You what?

Surely, in such a case, either the girl is underage and it's a crime regardless of how long ago they met, or the girl is of age and it's their own damn business how long ago they met. Shagging people you met three quarters of an hour ago in a park may well be inadvisable, but I don't see how it can possibly be criminal. Does anyone actually understand what the judge might have meant there?

Date: 2007-06-27 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bateleur.livejournal.com
Even writing this I've been wondering whether it'll trigger a stream of comments from people who think that I'm excusing child rape.

And, indeed, paediatrics in general! I'm horrified!

As far as the case goes, I tend to find my own views on the morality of such things don't match well with the law anyway. If the guy was 40, I don't care if he thought she looked 16 or not. If he was 16 himself, it's a completely different issue in my eyes.

Date: 2007-06-27 01:29 pm (UTC)
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If he was 16 himself, it's a completely different issue in my eyes.

And in the eyes of the law by my reading... Sex with somebody under 13 is always illegal. Sex with somebody over 13 and under 16 is only illegal if you are over 18 so it give you that option of being in a reasonably close peer group but with a few years spread. I guess it is a little shonky in some ways since if you are 16 and start sleepiong with a 13 year old that is fine until you hit 18 at which point it become illegal for a year...

What is the rough age between that 16 and 40 year old where you think it becomes OK, out of interest? I know its not a hard and fast number but I'm wondering if it was near the 18 that I quoted (via [livejournal.com profile] venta's link above) or higher.

Date: 2007-06-27 01:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bateleur.livejournal.com
Difficult to put a figure to it because it's not really about ages so much as maturity, but beyond about 21 I'd become increasingly hard to convince.

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