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venta ([personal profile] venta) wrote2004-11-29 11:22 am

You say tomato

What a wonderful sentence:

"[The Supreme Court of the US] acknowledged the botanical reality of their fruithood, but ruled that in common understanding and usage, they are treated as vegetables and should be taxed as such."

(From an article about tomatoes, as read out by my boss this morning.)

In other news, I have betrayed the Marmite. I just had lemon curd on my toast.

[identity profile] stompyboots.livejournal.com 2004-11-29 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Lemon curd ++good! It's one of those straight back to childhood flavours for me, as my gran used to make the best lemon curd in the known universe.

[identity profile] venta.livejournal.com 2004-11-29 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
This was inferior synthetic shop stuff, but still nice.
If you live near a Waitrose, try one of their lemon curd yoghurt deserts (small black pot, currently on 3-for-3). They're yummy - though manage to take the healthiness out of yoghurt by being about 20% cream :) (The vanilla and honey&ginger ones are great too - I have yet to try the others.)

[identity profile] venta.livejournal.com 2004-11-29 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
3-for-3

... because that's a really good deal.
Ahem. 3-for-2.

[identity profile] stompyboots.livejournal.com 2004-11-29 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
I live near a Waitrose, but I'm still enough of a student that it seems too pricey for me to even venture inside. Still, the promise of bargains and nice yogurt is making me reevaluate my price-bigotry.

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[identity profile] stegzy.livejournal.com 2004-11-29 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
In other news, I have betrayed the Marmite. I just had lemon curd on my toast.

eeeeewwwwww out of the frying pan and into the incinerator! Lemon curd belongs in lower echelons of Hades than Marmite!

Jam is much safer....(raspberry with seeds)

[identity profile] venta.livejournal.com 2004-11-29 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Raspberry jam is good, though to be honest the seeds piss me off a bit sometimes.

Best jam ever: the bramble, apple and elderberry jam my mum makes.
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[personal profile] pm215 2004-11-29 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
Annoying things about Japan #43: supermarkets have no flavours of jam except strawberry and blueberry.

[identity profile] sushidog.livejournal.com 2004-11-29 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
I like rasperry seeds. My mum's raspberry and redcurrant jam is pretty special.

Lemon curd?!

[identity profile] kissifa.livejournal.com 2004-11-29 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Oh the treachery! Oh the humanity! Oh the lemony evil!

I remember making lemon curd in Home-Ec, along with all those other crap dishes they came up with to keep us occupied for an hour, like the great microwave sponge cake experiment. Ugh...

Lemony evil! Lemony eeeeevil...

[identity profile] nalsa.livejournal.com 2004-11-29 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
This is a rerun of the whole Jaffa Cakes Are Not Biscuits thing, isn't it? I find it amazing that fruits and veg are taxed differently... "if it's sweet, it's a dessert, so it's a luxury item" is one potential next step.

[identity profile] stompyboots.livejournal.com 2004-11-29 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
Yay! The government can make fruit even more expensive than it is already!

[identity profile] nalsa.livejournal.com 2004-11-29 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
Hehehehehehehe.

I wasn't being serious, but that was a very funny reply!

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[identity profile] venta.livejournal.com 2004-11-29 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
Aye, I mentioned jaffa cakes when the tomatoes were talked about here.

And, since the decision about tomatoes was made in 1887, more of a pre-run :)

[identity profile] wimble.livejournal.com 2004-11-29 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
There was a discussion about jaffa cakes on QI a week or so back.

Cakes are soft, and go hard when they're stale.
Biscuits are hard, and go soft when they're stale.

Apparently McVitites baked a really, really big Jaffa Cake, so it could be analysed.

The peculiarity is that cakes are not subject to VAT, and biscuits are. Because biscuits are a luxury, but cake's an essential!

[identity profile] stompyboots.livejournal.com 2004-11-29 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
Yet 'female sanitary products' (the last time I checked) are considered a luxury item, and carry VAT.

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[identity profile] al-fruitbat.livejournal.com 2004-11-29 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
My favourite food-law-wrangle was the argument over whether a Lobster was an Animal or an Insect, as apparently it's cruel to boil an Animal alive, but not cruel to boil an Insect alive.

[identity profile] venta.livejournal.com 2004-11-29 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
So, which is it ?

And was there any justification for claiming it was an isnect beyond "we want to be able to boil it alive" ?

[identity profile] waistcoatmark.livejournal.com 2004-11-29 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
Well it is an invertebrate, and as such significantly more related to insects, arachnids etc. than it is to cute fluffy bunny rabbits...

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[identity profile] al-fruitbat.livejournal.com 2004-11-29 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
All insects are animals!

A lobster isn't an insect - it's a crustacean. Like insects, crustaceans are in the arthropoda (jointed limb).

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Wow, I'm making a lot of comments long past the time when anyone will read them. Ho hum...

Anyway: Lobsters have no cerebral cortex, which makes them exceptionally primitive neurally speaking. This isn't a justification for them being insects, but it might justify the claim that its ok to boil them alive.

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[identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com 2004-11-29 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
He-he-he! I shall read that sentence out to the cherry tomatoes I am going to have as part of my lunch (on top of Philadephia cheese, on top of a bagel), so that at least they can die feeling secure in the knowledge of their fruithood!

[identity profile] dmh.livejournal.com 2004-11-29 11:14 am (UTC)(link)
Just don't admit that last bit on [livejournal.com profile] we_love_marmite. They'd flay you alive.

[identity profile] venta.livejournal.com 2004-11-30 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
I'm curious about that community, now. But I don't want to go and look in case I'm wrong.

Y'see, it might just be a fairly dull place which some people who liked marmite set up, and in which marmite occasionally gets discussed.

On the other hand, it might be like the old Blyth Power mailing list - which was a cuddly, friendly group who very occasionally got round to talking about the band, but mostly kept to the important things in life like tea and cake and cricket and the shipping forecast.

I'd be hoping that [livejournal.com profile] we_love_marmite would be the latter, but fearing it'd be the former.

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Do you know where I might be able to get Blyth Power records?

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[identity profile] dmh.livejournal.com 2004-11-30 10:12 am (UTC)(link)
On the other hand it might be used to discuss Marmite cooking, Marmite parties, Marmite hunting, Marmitey relationship struggles ("My boyfriend doesn't like Marmite -- please help"), whether or not Marmite-flavour crisps taste anything like Marmite, and the indescribable fate of the Bomb Bomb Loopapa tribe and the huge amount of Marmite that must have been involved in such a cataclysm.