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I have just met the word "disambiguate" in some documentation I'm reading (DOM Level 1, if you care).

[Poll #357609]

Yes, I should be concentrating on DOM rather than posting silly polls. Thank you for asking.

Update: It is, of course, a great word. It covers a concept which (in my opinion) isn't covered by any other word, and is nicely euphonious to boot.

I'd now close this poll if I had any idea how to do so :)

Date: 2004-09-29 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Indeed. To my mind it's completely different from clarify. Nice example, by the way.

The question is whether people should be allowed to use "disambiguate", or should stick to the phrase "distinguish unambiguously" :)

Date: 2004-09-29 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cardinalsin.livejournal.com
FYI, "disambiguate" is also used by psychologists and (crucially) linguists. When scholars of language are using it, I'm thinking its here to stay.

Date: 2004-09-29 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onebyone.livejournal.com
A closer meaning would be "remove ambiguity concerning", since "distinguish unambiguously" doesn't imply that it was ever ambiguous.

Date: 2004-09-29 05:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
The context in which I met the word:

"Furthermore, both OMG IDL and ECMAScript have significant limitations in their ability to disambiguate names from different namespaces that makes it difficult to avoid naming conflicts with short, familiar names."

Made my definition seem like a reasonable one. However, yours does demonstrate better why there is no pre-existing word which does the same job so well.

Date: 2004-09-29 05:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bateleur.livejournal.com
A little off topic, but when I first encountered the Object Management Group acronym I quite automatically read it as "Oh My God".

I liked the idea of an "Oh My God Interface Description Language" and was quite disappointed to discover it was just those Corba chaps again !

Date: 2004-09-29 08:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Object Management Group

Oh is that what it stands for. I was happily reading it as Oh My God, on the grounds that I didn't need to know what it stood for. Mind you, I didn't know what IDL stood for, either ;)

Date: 2004-09-29 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] broadmeadow.livejournal.com
> Indeed. To my mind it's completely different from clarify.

Depends on context, I imagine.

> The question is whether people should be allowed to use "disambiguate", or should stick to the phrase "distinguish unambiguously"

People should be allowed to use whatever they like. OTOH, people should probably be _encouraged_ away from such vile constructs like "disambiguate". "Distinguish" seems like a good alternative to "clarify" (again, depending on context). Why should this require the addition of "unambigously" - that is surely implied?

Date: 2004-09-29 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
"Distinguish" seems like a good alternative to "clarify" (again, depending on context). Why should this require the addition of "unambigously" - that is surely implied?

Yes, I was wondering about that. In my mind, there is a difference, but I was having trouble coming up with an example with the "unambiguously" actually added anything.

If Onebyone is correct (http://www.livejournal.com/users/venta/112628.html?thread=1460468#t1460468), then I hadn't fully understood the implications of disambiguate, though, so may have been barking up the wrong tree.

Date: 2004-09-29 06:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onebyone.livejournal.com
If Onebyone is correct

Well, I was following "to dispossess" and "to disentangle", but now it occurs to me that "to dissociate" doesn't necessary mean to remove an association, it might mean only to draw a distinction. So I might have to give up on that theory.

In your context it clearly means "to prevent an ambiguity that would otherwise exist" rather than "to remove a pre-existing ambiguity", which is probably fair use figuratively even if the literal meaning were solely the latter, which it might not be.

Date: 2004-09-29 06:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
distinction

Or to remove a tinctionion.

Date: 2004-09-29 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onebyone.livejournal.com
Or any other kind of onion.

Date: 2004-09-29 05:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Depends on context, I imagine.

See here. (http://www.livejournal.com/users/venta/112628.html?thread=1462004#t1462004)

Date: 2004-09-29 06:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onebyone.livejournal.com
Why is "disambiguate" as a verb any worse than "unambiguously" as an adverb? Both are perfectly ordinary constructions from the adjective "ambiguous".

Date: 2004-09-29 06:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onebyone.livejournal.com
perfectly ordinary constructions

Come to think of it, maybe it isn't. Maybe a "disambiguate" ought to be one of the results of a process of "disambiguisation".

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