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When I moved to London, I had this vague and woolly idea that I had lots of friends in London, and that visiting them would be easy. It turns out, it isn't. I knew bits of London could be quite a long way from other bits of London, but hadn't quite appreciated the extent to which this is true.

There's also the problem of working it out. Some bits are unpredictably far away. Closeish in distance, but an awkward tube ride. Some bits are unpredictably close. Bloody miles in distance, but an unexpectedly convenient bus just happens to link them. Sometimes public transport is a pig, but it's a dead easy drive for those with cars.

There's also the difference of what various people consider "too far". Some people think an hour's travel is fair game for London. Some think that's a ridiculous distance on a school night.

This has caused the following problem: I'd like to invite people round for dinner more often, but I always worry that journeying to my house might be too much of a chore. If I could be confident that people would say "God, no, you live in the Styx[*]" that would be fine. But people can be fettered by too much politeness. Accordingly, I have a survey to see whether you'd like to be invited for dinner.

I am not a fabulous cook. I think I'm an all right cook, but then I read posts on here where people write about how they were so knackered when they got home from work they just couldn't be bothered to do more than whip up a roast peacock mousse with carrot ganache and candied walnut shavings. Occasionally people post photos, and I think good heavens, I am a culinary Neanderthal. But I've not killed anyone yet.

So... if I'm having a cooking frenzy, would you consider an invitation to dinner a good thing? I now live in Ealing, about ten minutes walk from Ealing Broadway. It's just off the A40, so not actually too hideous from somewhere like Oxford if you have a car. My cooking frenzies are unpredictable, so this is a general question rather than a party I'm planning next week.

[Poll #1619415]

[*] I've never written that phrase down before. Is it Styx like the river? Or is it actually Sticks?
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Date: 2010-09-16 10:51 am (UTC)
ext_550458: (Farnsworth don't aks me!)
From: [identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure it's 'sticks' rather than 'Styx', and that it somehow implies rural or semi-rural backwater. But I'm not sure why or how.

Date: 2010-09-16 10:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
Is it Styx like the river? Or is it actually Sticks?

It's "sticks" (though I prefer your version!), it's an American idiom and a bit of cursory googling suggests that a) it's something to do with baseball, and b) I can't be bothered to do more than cursory googling because I am lazy. :)

It's just off the A40, so not actually too hideous from somewhere like Oxford if you have a car.

Looks fairly easy from Oxford without a car! Train to Paddington (1hr), tube journey with only 7 stops & one change (~30 min? unless that's a particularly horrible slow bit of tube for reasons that only Londoners would understand...).

Um, I'm not trying to invite myself for dinner here, BTW, just burbling about trains. :-}

Date: 2010-09-16 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huskyteer.livejournal.com
Google Maps says you're half an hour from my workplace and an hour from my home, which is doable but would mean removing myself from your premises fairly early (no bad thing, probably).

Date: 2010-09-16 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com
I would love to join you for dinner, but sadly not really practical from here.

I am a culinary Neanderthal

As long as you serve mammoth portions…

*fx:rimshot*

Date: 2010-09-16 11:04 am (UTC)
ext_54529: (yogahopping)
From: [identity profile] shrydar.livejournal.com
As others have pointed out, the usual expression is sticks (a fair description of most Australian bushland), however I'm far more entertained by the notion that people might accuse you of living on the border of the Underworld.

Of course, living at the back of beyond myself I'm hardly in a position to throw stones, so I'll just mix my metaphors instead.

I'm as likely to make a school night as I am Sunday lunch, but sadly it's unlikely to be practicable this year. I'll refrain from calling you an insensitive clod, as (despite my geographic remove) the sentiment is still appreciated.

Date: 2010-09-16 11:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fractalgeek.livejournal.com
Finding a free evening,school or otherwise, (or even one that both me and [livejournal.com profile] queenortart are both free for is never easy, but Ealing Broadway is distinctly public-transportable.

Date: 2010-09-16 12:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] satyrica.livejournal.com
I find I make odd assumptions that, whilst I'm generally prepared to travel hours on public transport to see people, I can't imagine they would possibly ever do so for me, especially now I'm tucked away in the depths of SE London . . .

Date: 2010-09-16 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dr-bob.livejournal.com
Visiting from work would be trivial. However, I live south of the River - 45 mins car drive, stoopid by public transport. So there are issues of kid wrangling (and they have school nowadays) if I persuade [livejournal.com profile] cuthbertcross to come too, but stoopidly long way home by public transport (1.5-2 hours depending on timing of connections) if not. So t'would be feasible but logistically challenging.

Date: 2010-09-16 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mejoff.livejournal.com
Your Flist is wrong, it's styx, it is the edge of the underworld and the most remote of places, a total ball-ache to get to. It certainly didn't originate in America or from baseball.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=out%20in%20the%20styx

Date: 2010-09-16 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] d-floorlandmine.livejournal.com
I'm about an hour from Central London, so Ealing is sometimes twice that - weekends are therefore a better bet, at least if you'd want me to go home at the end [grin].

If you're a culinary Neanderthal, lass, I'm a culinary amoeba, so no worries!

Date: 2010-09-16 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feanelwa.livejournal.com
Surely as long as there aren't children or dogs or being on call or some other enormous logistical disaster waiting to happen involved, travelling for about an hour is doable if somebody will give you dinner when you get there? If somebody gives me one of the London jobs I've applied for (please please please) I will end up living along the Paddington railway line at some point and would definitely say an honest yes please if invited.

Date: 2010-09-16 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bopeepsheep.livejournal.com
I spent most of the 1970s-90s visiting my grandparents in Ealing, from Oxford, so I not only know how easy it is to get to, I find it oddly nostalgic to do so now. (I also remember when the Oxford Tube stopped at Perivale and Park Royal on the A40, which were feasible distances for walking to my uncle's and grandparents', respectively. Hillingdon requires transport of some kind, boo.) And then my brother and SIL lived at Northfields for another two years, more recently.

I'm now intrigued as to which bit you actually live in, as lots of the bits I know can be reasonably described as '10 mins from Ealing Broadway'...

maybe we should get to know eachother first?

Date: 2010-09-16 12:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bondagewoodelf.livejournal.com
unique, .. etc etc ...

Well, I am just following your LJ because you are apparently a friend of many people in my f-list. I thought that even if I took the travel time to show up for something like this, it might be a bit weird because we never actually met in person, or even interacted on LJ itself (IIRC). But anyway, thanks for the very friendly invite ;-)

Date: 2010-09-16 01:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] killalla
I'm reaching that stage of my job when I'm more likely to be going into London for meetings relatively often (once or twice a week), and I was hoping to see if friends might want to meet up centrally for lunch, dinner, coffee, etc. So, perhaps we could arrange to meet - it would be great to see you and catch up.

Date: 2010-09-16 01:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rabbit1080.livejournal.com
*nonchalently wanders over to defend the peacocks wot live at the local university*

Date: 2010-09-16 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ulfilias.livejournal.com
Hmmm. I find people odd with distance in the UK. I do lots of traveling and don't think much at jumping in the car for an hour or two. Heck i often classified the Subculture in Leeds as my local despite being 130miles from my house, though i'd usualy stay over and drink when visiting there.

However its not been unknown for me to drop in to London for an evening. Its an hour and a half or there abouts depending on various bits. No one is truely safe from my brand of mayhem =;-)

Date: 2010-09-16 01:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] motodraconis.livejournal.com
At the moment I'm an hour from you on the tube to Ealing Broadway, or (allegedly) 35 minutes by car - going round the north circular. When I move house, I could be as little as 20 minutes drive from you.

I'm up for it. Car would likely be better so long as traffic is not monstrous.

If car, I'd be appreciative (if drinking but also cos an hour on the tube alone and late at night is no fun) an option to possibly stay over? I can bring my own sleeping bag and inflatable mattress and be out of your hair quietly and early the next morning before you've even got out of bed.

Date: 2010-09-16 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leathellin.livejournal.com
I am working in London again and Oxford to Ealing is not tricky so something could probably be arranged...
I'll be especially keen the evenings before some git has arranged an early morning meeting if that was a spare room I saw mentioned above ;-)

Styx

Date: 2010-09-16 03:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zotz
I think it means you live around here somewhere - possibly down near the famously undrinkable Water of Leith.

See also The Bridge.

Date: 2010-09-16 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metame.livejournal.com
Can probably make it, though A's schoolnights are pretty early these days.

Also: Same question to you...

Date: 2010-09-16 04:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] uitlander
Since moving, you're now the 'wrong side' of London for me. But 'twould be nice to see you at some point.

Date: 2010-09-16 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ringbark.livejournal.com
I'll travel wherever my Oyster card can take me, but only on Monday to Thursday nights, as I'm back to Merseyside to see my family at the weekend.
Monday is not favoured, as I have to get up at stupid o'clock and am tired by suppertime.

Styx? I thought you might be referring to those to whome the Thames is perceived as an impenetrable barrier. "Nah, mate, that's sarf of the river".

Date: 2010-09-16 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serpentstar.livejournal.com
I'd love to come over for dinner sometime when I'm in London, but I'm not sure when that'll next be.

Date: 2010-09-16 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] owdbetts.livejournal.com
Didn't know you were in London, although I'm sure I must have spoken to you at a Whitby or two since you moved so maybe I knew and just forgot :-)

I'm currently plotting a move to London at the moment—sounds like everyone is moving to London these days :-)

-roy

Date: 2010-09-16 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] john-the-hat.livejournal.com
I *do* like you, and love going out for dinner, in fact we've just got back from a dinner at friends, which was lovely, but I don't think you're an insensitive clod, so it was "its just not practical", but I'd like to point out that it just means "its not practical from Birmingham" and none of the other options you put!
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