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venta ([personal profile] venta) wrote2008-11-11 12:49 pm

Got my mind on my money and my money on my mind

Some time around now - today, according to the mother, though I don't know where she got her info from - we can celebrate the 150th anniversary of the G&T.

The gin and tonic was invented (by the British army) in the hot climes of India, when foul-tasting quinine-laden tonic water was still the best way to ward off malaria.

I think it says a lot about the Victorians that, faced with unpalatable medication, their solution was to mix it with gin.

[identity profile] hoiho.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Which lead me to wonder: how did they drink their gin in the days before the G&T, and the Martini?

[identity profile] hoiho.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Also sweetened, Duch-stylee?

[identity profile] venta.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gin):

"Gin in the 18th century was produced in pot stills, and was somewhat sweeter than the London gin known today."

Jenever is produced in pot stills, so I guess it was more much like the Dutch stuff.
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[identity profile] hmmm-tea.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)

Probably only like a poor quality sweetened version of the dutch stuff.

The main style, Old Tom, was juniper heavy and very poor quality. It was made from corn in a pot still (coffey still not being invented until 1826). Hayman's still make a version of Old Tom.

The first unsweetened gin styles started to appear in the early 19th century, after production had been brought under control.

[identity profile] venta.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Copiously (http://www.penwith.co.uk/artofeurope/hogarth-gin-lane.jpg).
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[identity profile] hmmm-tea.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Apparently in 1720, gin distillation in London was at around 12 million litres, which is enough for over half a litre of gin a week for every man, woman and child in the city at that time.

[identity profile] mister-jack.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I love the Victorians.

[identity profile] mister-jack.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, and remember, Gin itself was developed as a medicinal compound.

[identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 01:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Am I alone in being unable to hear the phrase 'medicinal compoud' without humming Lily the Pink under my breath>

[identity profile] huskyteer.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 01:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think I've ever heard it in any other context!

[identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Good to know!

[identity profile] venta.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Not at all. I had been about to post asking if it was most efficacious in every case when I saw your comment :)
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[identity profile] shrydar.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Not remotely!

[identity profile] venta.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm considering adopting their approach if I'm ever again prescribed vile antibiotics in non-pill form.

"Well, doctor, I'm not sure how it's working - it tastes nasty, so I've been mixing it with equal parts rum..."

[identity profile] drdoug.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 02:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Care is advised if the non-pill form is for parenteral administration.

(You won't be able to taste the rum so no need to use the good stuff.)
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[identity profile] shrydar.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Large one? :-)

(around about the five minute mark..)

[identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Apparently the anniversary is of the patenting of a carbonated tonic water that resembles what we have today -- most importantly, in being nice. So they were drinking gin and quininey-stuff prior to that, but not really for fun.

[identity profile] lathany.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
:-)

I'd have put the tonic in the fridge this morning, if I'd known.

1751

(Anonymous) 2008-11-11 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
1751, also the shortest year in British history, was when the government restricted the alcohol content of gin. Previously it had been in the range of 80% to 90% alcohol. Over the following few years there was a huge rise in the birthrate, and a reduction in deaths through alcohol poisoning!

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