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venta ([personal profile] venta) wrote2008-09-22 04:34 pm
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I come from Barcelona

Panic!
Wikipedia's servers appear to be down. Accordingly, I don't know anything at all. This is scary.

[identity profile] broadmeadow.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 04:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I too suffered this problem.

As of now, though, you do know something about most things but much of it may be slightly erroneous or highly trivial.

[identity profile] venta.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
much of it may be slightly erroneous or highly trivial

[identity profile] broadmeadow.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw an excellent example of Wiki brilliance yesterday.

An article had been deleted some time ago on account of it being unreliable tosh of the very first order. It was unreferenced etc and obviously something to be wary of. However, during the life of the article it was sucked into another online repository of all human knowledge and remained there.

The Wikipedia article was subsequently rewritten by someone else and this time it was full of references and other stuff to make you feel good about it. Only problem was, the references were to the duplicate of the previously deleted article...

[identity profile] venta.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
That is special. I'm not sure whether to file it under someone taking the piss, or someone completely missing the point of references.

[identity profile] emarkienna.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Amusingly I saw this too yesterday (although unless you have an interest in Motorola processors, this is probably a coincidence).

It's funny when people do this. One good thing about the GFDL is that (AIUI) anyone copying material from Wikipedia must legally say that it came from Wikipedia, so at least these things are usually easy to spot.

[identity profile] sea-of-flame.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Nov 25th, London Scala :)

Or was that not the info you were looking for? ;)

[identity profile] venta.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
<grin>

Actually, I wanted to check whether Paracelsus was an alchemist and what the name he used for himself before Paracelsus was (and how you spelled it).

Hard at work me, oh yes!

[identity profile] sea-of-flame.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
And there was me thinking you wanted to know of upcoming gigs tangentially associated with your subject line... ;)

[identity profile] venta.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
It was a good guess :)

I did go to the Scala's website to see what you were on about - I didn't even know there was a band called that!

[identity profile] sea-of-flame.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Got no idea what their music is like, my work promote their tours regularly enough for me to recognise the name.

[identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Their music is very fine. There are an awful lot of them in the band, not sure how the Scala's stage will cope.

[identity profile] bopeepsheep.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I was thinking it was more "I speak English. I learn it from a boooooook." but my pop culture references seem to be 10 years older than everyone else's, minimum. :D

[identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
His "real" name was Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheim, if my feeble memory cells are any guide.

[identity profile] venta.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Wikipedia tells me he was born Phillip von Hohenheim. Later, he used the name Philippus Theophrastus Aureolus Bombastus von Hohenheim, which was what I was looking to check before posting it on someone else's LJ :)

I think I've seen his name cited in the version you use, too, so possibly he rearranged his forenames at will or added a new one every few years.

[identity profile] leathellin.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Surely you should know this. He was one of our characters.

[identity profile] venta.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 06:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't remember much detail about the manner of his name changes :)

Also, I wanted to check the spelling and reassure myself that we hadn't added an extra few names in to make it more stupid. But no, it was that stupid to start with.

[identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com 2008-09-23 07:20 am (UTC)(link)
Phillip eh? You can see why he changed it, that wouldn't have had much cred at the weekly meetings of the Alchemists' Club. "Some call me... Phillip."

[identity profile] keris.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I spent Saturday demonstrating Physics at the open day and had great fun telling people how the wikipedia entry for what I was showing them sounded right but was wrong :)

[identity profile] venta.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 06:44 pm (UTC)(link)
So, why haven't you fixed it ? That's how Wikipedia gets better ;)

[identity profile] emarkienna.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
...or tell us what the article is, so someone else can fix it :) (Or splat it with loads of tags.)

[identity profile] keris.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
...I'll get round to sorting it sometime - I only found out on Friday!

[identity profile] emarkienna.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad it's not just me. Actually I often have this experience whenever I'm not near a computer (well, I suppose I have my phone, but I've yet to be desperate enough to look up a Wikipedia article on my phone. Also if I did, I'd see something that I wanted to edit, which would be a right pain when doing it on a phone).

[identity profile] venta.livejournal.com 2008-09-22 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Weirdly, it doesn't bother me if I'm away from a computer. I just say "Ah, I'll google it later" (and 9 times out of 10 I forget).

Today I was really only verifying something I knew, not even looking it up, before I commented on another journal. I'm not sure whether this is (a) a good thing, because I check my facts (or at least check that other people believe the same wrong facts) or (b) a bad thing, because I've become the internet equivalent of institutionalised :)

[identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com 2008-09-23 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
(b) -- where would we be without sounding off airily while not in full possession of the facts?