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venta ([personal profile] venta) wrote2003-04-16 09:45 am

Hmm

I bought the new Neuroticfish album at Whitby (having read all about it in Meltdown, which makes it all [livejournal.com profile] mrph's fault somehow :). Despite repeated claims on the part of Neuroticfish that "EBM is dead", he appears to have made an EBM album. Do you think we should tell him?

Oh, and I really must change the tape in the car. Fond though I am of The Head on the Door and Trompe le Monde, they've been round too many times. And I'm going to be humming the outro of Alec Eiffel all day again.

[identity profile] mrph.livejournal.com 2003-04-16 10:45 am (UTC)(link)
I bought the new Neuroticfish album at Whitby (having read all about it in Meltdown, which makes it all mrph's fault somehow :). Despite repeated claims on the part of Neuroticfish that "EBM is dead", he appears to have made an EBM album. Do you think we should tell him?

Only if I'm standing there with a video camera at the time. :)

Is it EBM? If so, then so's Assemblage 23. And they claim they're industrial. I always think of EBM as the stompier gruntier Funker Vogt style myself, but there seems to be no clear definition...

[identity profile] venta.livejournal.com 2003-04-16 10:52 am (UTC)(link)
Ah. It's entirely possible that I mean entirely the wrong thing by EBM - I use it to describe the poppier end of things bleepy. Covenant, for example.

I was surprised at how many of the Neuroticfish songs sounded familiar - he must get more play in clubs than I thought.

[identity profile] mrph.livejournal.com 2003-04-16 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
...and Covenant were so annoyed by being called synthpop/EBM/industrial etc, that iirc they (together with VNV Nation) came up with a new label, "Futurepop", to describe their sound.

Just call it all "bleepy stuff", and then there'll be no argument. :)

And yep, I think Neuroticfish has been getting quite a lot of play. Especially Velocity...

[identity profile] onebyone.livejournal.com 2003-04-17 02:29 am (UTC)(link)

lanfykins once played me something that she called EBM. I think I described it as "bog standard Euro-disco but with a vocalist who took a wrong turn on the way to a Sisters of Mercy gig".

Does that describe the genre in general, or was this example unrepresentative?

[identity profile] venta.livejournal.com 2003-04-17 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
I'd say that's a well-recognised and clearly-defined subset of EBM, yes.

I didn't say the genre didn't include a bunch of bobbins :)

(Neuroticfish is available on my hard drive/as a CD for listening (yes, yes, I know you haven't got a soundcard) if you're interested. I'm not sure yet to what extent I'd recommend it).