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Spot question for the day:

Without googling, does the following phrase mean anything to anybody ?

Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of the party.
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Date: 2004-11-11 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] narenek.livejournal.com
It rings a bell, but it just be recognising the "Now is the time for all good men..." bit from something more well known than the precise quote you're using.

Date: 2004-11-11 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nalsa.livejournal.com
Yes. And now I'm going to be wracking my brains as to why.

It's a trigger phrase, isn't it? From a film, someone says it and people start doing stupid things, like crashing their cars into walls and killing presidential candidates? Or am I confusing it with The invisible worm that flies in the night?

Date: 2004-11-11 02:02 am (UTC)

Date: 2004-11-11 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purplecthulhu.livejournal.com
IIRC the film was Telefon, and yes, it was used in that as a trigger for sleeper agents.

But I'm sure it comes from something else, like the communist party manifesto or something like that.

Can I google for it now?

Date: 2004-11-11 02:03 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] taimatsu
Yes, but I can't remember where it's from. At a guess, it's probably Shakespeare, given how many phrases in the language are his fault.

Date: 2004-11-11 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Are you going to tell us why/where from ?

Date: 2004-11-11 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
You may indeed google now. I just wanted to make clear that I was wanting people's opinions (first) rather than just that I was too lazy to google for the answer myself.

This trigger-for-sleeping-agents bit is a new one on me. That's not where I know it from.

Date: 2004-11-11 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wimble.livejournal.com
It's also a typewriter testing phrase. I think I came across it in The Mixed Up Files of Mrs. Basil E Frankweiler where the runaway teenage heroine sneaks into a typewriter shop to type a letter, and finds this text across the top of the paper. So she carries on from there.

Date: 2004-11-11 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smorgasbord.livejournal.com

Moon on a stick!

I think that ‘the party’ is the communist party. But I cannot remember the original setting as I have heard it repeated so many times out of its orginal context.

Date: 2004-11-11 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wimble.livejournal.com
Indeed, I am supported in this by http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_295a.html

(Of course, whether they're right is a good question!)

Date: 2004-11-11 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lanfykins.livejournal.com
I know I've encountered it before. Like everyone else, I have no idea where.

Date: 2004-11-11 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nalsa.livejournal.com
Excellent. I'm glad that my half-remembered knowledge is accurate :-)

Date: 2004-11-11 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Aha! This is what I asscoiate it with. Well, not with that novel in particular, but that it's some form of typewriter testing thingy.

I not 100% sure what it tests, though. I remember my godmother vaguely referring to it as "something to do with the home keys".

Date: 2004-11-11 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wimble.livejournal.com
Do I win a prize?

Date: 2004-11-11 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secretrebel.livejournal.com
It's a mnemonic, isn't it? Or a stock phrase of some kind. Err, it turns up in the older sort of typing tests.

Date: 2004-11-11 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] addedentry.livejournal.com
It's a phrase I learnt to try on typewriters, too, along with The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.

Date: 2004-11-11 02:35 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chrisvenus
Yeah. I was about to say that with less detail. I got it from my dad who always used it when the need came to type "something". You know when you just want to play and need something, anything to write.

So "Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of the party." is what was always written.

I figured you probably didn't know it from my dad though. :)

Date: 2004-11-11 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lanfykins.livejournal.com
Given that the home keys are asdf jkl; then I think that may be rubbish.

It does seem to use most of the most-used keys, though. Perhaps that's it.

Date: 2004-11-11 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Indeed, the two phrase are also inextricably linked in my mind.

Date: 2004-11-11 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Having examined my typing of it, I'm guessing that you can type it easily whilst keeping at least one finger on the its home key at all times. Discounting double letters, typing each letter with the 'correct' finger means that you are typing alternate left-right all the time, so you can keep your hands in position very easily. There are also no 'awkward' letters like Q and Z to reach for.

Date: 2004-11-11 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Well, obviously the respect and admiration of the people on my friends list (or the subset thereof reading this thread).

Other than that, no.

Date: 2004-11-11 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Well, I was reminded of this because the Blyth Power album I had on in the car this morning includes a song which begins with a very protentous voice stating "Now is the time for all good men, in defence of the party, to rally around."

Not sure I've got you down as a BP fan, though :)

Date: 2004-11-11 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
you are typing alternate left-right all the time

Well, nearly.

Date: 2004-11-11 02:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pm215
Er, what layout are you using? NO, IM, OM, ART are all same-hand strings. Given that one of these is the first letter pair in the string your theory doesn't hold up very long :-)

Anyway, aren't you meant to keep your spare fingers on the home keys all the time when touch typing?

Date: 2004-11-11 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
QWERTY, see the ammendment to 'nearly' :)

Yes, you are supposed to keep your fingers on the home keys. I don't. Do you ?

I noticed when typing that phrase the it was much easier to do so than it usually is. That it's mostly alternate hands, thus giving you time to re-locate after each keystroke, was the best explanation I could come up with in a hurry for why.
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